Re: It's Time to Stigmatize Some People Again

On Nov 10, 2025 at 3:07:40 PM MST, "pothead" wrote
<[email protected]>:

> On 2025-11-10, useapen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> There it was this morning, plain as day. It was a screenshot of a woman
>> going off about how her food stamps were cut off, the $1,000 per month she
>> and her family supposedly get from the government, juxtaposed against her
>> being called out by someone else for hair extensions, expensive trips to
>> the nail salon, and tattoos. In short, she wastes money on unnecessary
>> things and then demands money from the government to support herself.
>> 
>> She's squandering money on luxuries while relying on the taxpayers to fund
>> her groceries for anywhere between four and seven people in her household.
>> 
>> And worse, there's no sense of shame among many of these people. There's
>> no concept that maybe they should keep their heads down and just be
>> thankful for what they've gotten.
>> 
>> Instead, many tried to brag about what all they'd do if they didn't get
>> SNAP money. They threatened violence and got away with it.
>> 
>> There used to be a stigma for being a welfare recipient, and while I get
>> that it's not always fair to stigmatize people for temporary setbacks, too
>> many people are still making a lifestyle based on government largesse.
>> 
>> These people are too comfortable doing so and are too demanding to be
>> permitted to go about their lives unchallenged.
>> 
>> People who refuse to work, who maintain large households and exist off of
>> taxpayer money, shouldn't be accepted. They shouldn't be tolerated. They
>> should be demeaned and mocked as the leeches they are.
>> 
>> When I was younger, this happened. It was considered mean to do, but it at
>> least meant those who got welfare in some form at least kept quiet about
>> it. Many were made to feel a sense of shame about it, which often led them
>> to take steps to get off of it and to pay their own way. Others were too
>> damn lazy to care, though, so reforms had to be made by implementing work
>> requirements.
>> 
>> But those requirements are so minor that recipients are getting off easy.
>> 
>> For those of you who may not remember, back during the reform debate, some
>> literally thought they were entitled to welfare money as their due. That
>> hasn't changed, and that's why these people need to be stigmatized. They
>> need to be made to feel bad about the position they have put themselves
>> in.
>> 
>> And it's not just the welfare queens, either.
>> 
>> There are a lot of people who are in positions due to their own decisions
>> who somehow think they deserve special treatment. You majored in Lesbian
>> Fruit Bat Studies in college, and you can't get a job? No wonder you
>> can't. You've proven you're too irresponsible to be trusted with your own
>> oxygen supply, much less anything that requires the least bit of
>> responsibility beyond putting on clothes to cover your reproductive parts.
>> 
>> You see racism everywhere around you, and that's why you're an a**? Maybe
>> what you chalk up to racism is because you're an insufferable piece of
>> filth, and people don't care about your ethnicity, just that you're a
>> horrible human being.
>> 
>> Communist? Enough said, mockery and laughter to follow.
>> 
>> Too many people get away with being terrible in various ways. We need to
>> stigmatize these people for exactly what they are: Con artists, deadbeats,
>> and pathetic excuses for human beings barely qualified to turn oxygen into
>> carbon dioxide.
>> 
>> Sure, there's a line there. Each of ours might be a little different, but
>> there's a big difference between a disabled veteran who can't work versus
>> someone really upset that our tax dollars won't be available to fund their
>> eyebrow waxing. Those who cross that line need to be the subject of scorn,
>> if for no other reason than to make it loudly apparent that it's
>> unacceptable to do that when you can work.
>> 
>> Do enough of that, shame people into cleaning up their lives on their own,
>> without expecting someone to do it for them, and we really will make
>> America great again.
>> 
>> https://townhall.com/columnists/tomknighton/2025/11/07/its-time-to-
>> stigmatize-some-people-again-n2666120

This rant spreads old welfare myths. SNAP doesn’t pay $1,000 a month to
individuals, can’t be spent on tattoos or nails, and most recipients already
work. Shaming poor families doesn’t make them more self-sufficient — it just
fuels resentment and misinformation. Poverty isn’t a moral failure, and
mocking people who need help says more about the accuser than about those
struggling to eat.

> 
> This type of scam is quite prevelant and it crosses all ethnic backgrounds.
> These days scamming the system, which is very easy to do if you know how, is
> worn as a badge of honor.
> NOT by the people who really need assistance but by the leeches and grifters
> who are able to work but refuse to or who collect government checks and work
> tax
> free off the books.
> 
> And it would surprise you how many people with fancy homes, high end cars,
> extravegant
> vacations are indeed scamming  the system.
> Why?
> Because it is so darn easy and in the past the government did not do anything
> but the most
> basic checks for eligibility.
> 
> That has all changed with the trump administration and the amount of fraud and
> waste in
> the government assistance programs is staggering. And these are funds that
> could be allocated to
> people who really need some assistance for whatever reason.
> 
> Of course if you point this out you will be labeled a bigot, racist and so
> forth.
> It's the classic tactic of the demonrats.
> The old "do you want people to starve?" shtick.
> The problem the demonrats have is that the voters are not falling for this
> routine anymore and hence
> the government shutdown where the demonrats attempted to pull the bigot,
> republicans want you to starve
> game once again but failed to mention one "minor fact" which is NOBODY wants
> people to starve however
> the republicans AND the voters do not want to fund welfare, healthcare and so
> forth for illegal migrants.
> They kept leaving that part out but the voters quickly caught on to the ruse.
> And as for medical care, if an illegal is in dire need of medical care, patch
> him or her up and once
> well enough to travel deport them back to their home country.
> 
> The system is not designed to accomodate the massive number of invaders that
> Biden allowed into the country.
> You might want to ask UK and Germany about that one.
> It's not sustainable.
> 
> Laws are in place for a reason. A country without laws that are enforced is no
> longer a country but simply a wasteland
> run by anarchy.
> If the demonrat leftists don't like the laws, vote out the representatives who
> support them.

The fraud narrative here is baseless -- verified rates are under 1%. The
language about "invaders" and "demonrats" borrows directly from
white-supremacist propaganda that paints immigrants and welfare recipients as
subhuman threats. Undocumented immigrants can't even get federal welfare
benefits. As I have noted, you right wingers, and especially you white
supremacists, are all about tribalism and scapegoating -- and you (you
personally) prove it time and time again.

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It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.