Re: [Update] 7-Zip 26.02

On 27/06/2026 20:56, Mike Easter wrote:
> p-0 0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
>> So, tell me Shadow what does 'Open' mean.
> 
> Open refers to source. That is only part of the story, as you well know, 
> because one of your fave topics, copyright and 'copyleft' have to be 
> dealt w/ by some kind of the myriad 'licenses' for open source 'libre' 
> ware.

That's just gibberish.

Copyright and 'copyleft' are not one of my fave topics.

They don't HAVE to be dealt with at all.

Copyright is law, a right given, a legal entitlement.

Copyleft is a permissive note given by the copyright holder. I don't 
think it's even a recognized legal term.

Copyright XXX. All rights reserved.

Copyleft XXX. All rights reserved. Is complete bollocks. It's not a right.



> Consequently, something as simple as opensource and copyleft become 
> quite complex, which is no fun.

Copyleft in five lines. How difficult was that. That isn't complex is 
it. It's only complex to you because you think here's some value add. 
Some manifest destiny. Some quasi-religious context. There isn't. You 
have been sold a pup. It's straightforward Contract and License Law.

The rest is just sales patter.

So, while we are waiting for Shadow to get back to us about the meaning 
of open [I hear tales of nervous breakdowns and gnashing of teeth over 
in Linux advocacy] let us turn to your mystifying use of 'libre'. So the 
literal translation of libre is free, now to be fair because of the 
structure of languages that use the term it is probably more accurate to 
translate it as freedom in English but even that is a stretch liberte 
would be better  but lets go with that for arguments sake so how does 
that equate to the so called 'freedoms' I think there's 4 of them in the 
GPL, not named as freedoms in the GPL [go check it out] but described 
elsewhere by the usual suspects as freedoms. In fact in the GPL they are 
mandatory obligations. Does that sound like freedom to you? or sales patter?


> You *could* do us something loquacious and entertaining on that theme.

I could, but if you learnt the basics of what I am trying to enlighten 
you about it would work better, unfortunately it's tough leaving a cult.



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