Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license?

"John C." <[email protected]>
Newsgroups alt.comp.freeware
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 26/06/29 10:32 AM, p-0 0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
> On 29/06/2026 12:59, John C. wrote:
>> In software licensing, "libre" refers to freedom, not price. Borrowed
>> from Romance languages, it is used to specifically distinguish software
>> that grants users total liberty over their code (free as in speech) from
>> software that is simply available at no monetary cost, or gratis (free
>> as in beer).
> 
> Laughable, libre does not translate to liberte or liberty.
> 
> I does not grant 'total liberty over their code', quite the opposite.
> How can it.
> 
> "We grant you total liberty, you lucky lucky lowly oik, as long as you
> keep yer nose clean and do what we say i.e, abide by the four
> commandments or I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and
> furious anger". That's what it says. Don't shoot the messenger.
> 
> This is why I hate these people, not only do they come to tell us how
> much better they are than us scummy users of 'proprietary' software, but
> they wrap it up in a sloppy infantile inaccurate barely literate fairy
> story, and expect us to treat them seriously, and with reverence like
> they are disciples of the one true God.
> 
> 
>> https://book.the-turing-way.org/reproducible-research/licensing/
>> licensing-floss/
>>
>> According to the Free Software Definition:
>>
>> https://wikieducator.org/Libre
> 
> According to the book of Messiah, chapter 2, verse 6
> 
>> a "libre" software license must grant users four essential freedoms:
> 
> Opps what happened to liberty, suddenly I have an obligation.
> 
> <yada>
> 
>> Common examples of licenses that meet these "libre" criteria include the
>> GNU General Public License (GPL) and permissive open-source licenses
>> like the MIT and Apache licenses.
> 
> So, with MIT and Apache licenses you have the additional [greater]
> freedom to make your mod non-libre. Sound like real freedom to any of
> you. Oh, yes, they are not better than us, we are better than them.
> Arise pussies, and man the barricades!
> 
>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/computer-science/open-source-license
>>
>> Freeware, in the context of the main topic of this newsgroup, is
>> software that requires no cost, monetary or otherwise, to use. Such
>> software may or may not be "libre", because the four freedoms described
>> above have nothing to do with the cost (to the end user) of running a
>> program.
> 
> Well, there is a cost to GPL licensed software, verbal diarrhea. Why is
> mine any worse. It's just perception. I have a point. I'm a serious cat
> and the cost in lost opportunity from the implementation of this license
> is incalculable. Trillions of trillions probably. I'll tell you about it
> some time when the mob next call and do their preachy, preachy thing.

You'll have to take up your objections with Gemini, where I got the OP's
information.  80)>

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