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I would like to think that if I have assassins trained in a city that has t=
he "master guild", that my assassins would have at least a relatively good =
chance of being very successful in their endeavours.Your thoughts? AuthorRe=
plies: Brother Noopsy=20
 Legionary posted 18 November 2006 17:01 EDT (US) 1 / 27 I think the assass=
ins are useless. I'm in turn 89 playing as England and I have 5 assassins. =
They cannot seem to murder anyone. I've tried against the Scots, Danes, Mil=
anese, French, Diplomats, Spys and generals and not a one is ever successfu=
l. They don't get caught and executed either they just fail with every atte=
mpt. One had a 48% chance and still blew it. They have failed so often that=
 whoever they try to kill is now about a 5% chance.I have a big crowd of ot=
her countries agents around cities in Europe but I can't get rid of any and=
 then they bribe my armies. Rabidnid=20
 Banned posted 18 November 2006 17:05 EDT (US) 2 / 27 I've not had one with=
 a sucess chance of higher than 14% and haven't killed anybody in about 20 =
attempts. julii_general=20
 Legionary posted 18 November 2006 17:05 EDT (US) 3 / 27 yeah assasins are =
a waste in time here.
In RTW you could make a good assasin and make him a killing machine working=
 together with a spy,but in in M2TW assasins are too weak. Aussie Lord=20
 Legionary posted 19 November 2006 01:46 EDT (US) 4 / 27 My assassins are d=
oing okay i was spain and the moors kept sending there priest guys in my pr=
ovinces so i assainated them and killed them first time then attacked anoth=
er one and tryed about 3 times then killed him.But you see if assassins are=
 to powerful the game will just be stupid you could wipe out a faction by k=
illing there faction leaders with assassins not on the battlefield Brother =
Noopsy=20
 Legionary posted 19 November 2006 02:54 EDT (US) 5 / 27 "But you see if as=
sassins are to powerful the game will just be stupid you could wipe out a f=
action by killing there faction leaders with assassins not on the battlefie=
ld"That is true but the point is that the assassins in M2TW are never succe=
ssful. Out of my 5 assassins at least two should have one or two successful=
 attempts to build up their skills. Besides, they should sometimes be able =
to kill off faction leaders and heirs.In Rome some assassins were hopeless =
and occassionally you had a really good one who built up enough skills but =
even they get caught and executed eventually. Assassins in M2TW just seem l=
ike a waste of money. As I said in my earlier post I'm surrounded by enemy =
agents. I should be able to kill some of them, especially merchants, or the=
y play havoc on my cities, armies and trade.
 Brock88=20
 Legionary posted 19 November 2006 03:04 EDT (US) 6 / 27 The problem is, un=
less you have a guilde or some other building that offers skills, most agen=
ts you recuit will have no skill or 1. They should make it so they start ou=
t with 2 or 3 skill points.Never lie, steal, cheat, or drink. But if you mu=
st lie, lie in the arms of the one you love. If you must steal, steal away =
from bad company. If you must cheat, cheat death. And if you must drink, dr=
ink in the moments that take your breath away.
 Winner of 2005 OD : Best Ownage, Funniest Newbie, and Dinoman Award=20
"Mastering Others is Strength, Mastering yourself makes you fearless -Lao T=
zu" Smileyman007=20
 Legionary posted 19 November 2006 03:34 EDT (US) 7 / 27 You guys give up t=
oo easily. Guilds help, but you're right...it's not easy to get a good assa=
ssin. It takes persistance and some (or a lot of) luck. But you will eventu=
ally get a good one. In the game I'm playing right now as England (M/M), th=
e Pope was upset at me and I was warned that if I attacked France I would b=
e excommunicated. They were down to one province and I really wanted to fin=
ish them off. The Pope was relatively young and I didn't want to wait, so I=
 had my best assassin in the area of Rome and decided to take a crack at a =
Pope assassination.Let's just say that France was eliminated, there are now=
 three newly-open spots in the College of Cardinals where the French Cardin=
als were, and I should have a decent shot at electing one of mine Pope next=
 turn.My point is not to gloat, my point is that assassins can work. But in=
 nearly 100 turns, I've only had a couple good ones, and not that many succ=
essful assassinations. Just do easy missions until they get better skills a=
nd retainers (especially retainers), and just accept that you are going to =
lose lots of assassins in the process of making a few good ones. It's not s=
upposed to be easy. Insert JFK speach here.No, I'm not being sarcastic.[Thi=
s message has been edited by Smileyman007 (edited 11-19-2006   03:36 AM).] =
bottle_rocket=20
 Legionary posted 19 November 2006 08:35 EDT (US) 8 / 27 Yeah - but it is s=
till to hard. Tbe manual says you should start an assasin off with a few ea=
sy targets, but the way things are there's none.I managed to get an assasin=
 to 'off' and enemy captain, only for him to lose the traits he'd picked up=
 with a success the next time there was a fail.I find myself constantly bui=
lding assasins and sending wave after wave (10-15) against priests and inqu=
isitors with no results. Shurley shome mishtake? Rabidnid=20
 Banned posted 19 November 2006 12:29 EDT (US) 9 / 27 Quote:

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