Re: Summary of findings – 2017 iMac (iMac18 ,3) with Fusion Drive issues
"David B." <[email protected]>
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On 31/01/2026 05:24, Paul wrote: > On Thu, 1/29/2026 6:15 AM, David B. wrote: >> Summary of findings – 2017 iMac (iMac18,3) with Fusion Drive issues >> >> I’m running a 2017 iMac (iMac18,3) which originally shipped with a 2TB Fusion Drive. >> >> Based on behaviour over time, my assessment is that the SSD portion of the Fusion Drive has failed, while the 2TB spinning HDD remains functional. >> >> Current setup and observations: >> >> macOS Ventura is running from an external 1TB SSD and is stable and performs well >> >> Linux Mint 22.3 is installed on the internal 2TB HDD (spinner) and also runs reliably >> >> The same hardware shows instability only when macOS interacts with the Fusion Drive configuration >> >> Kernel panics previously observed (including namespace 2 / SIGBUS-style errors) ceased once macOS was moved entirely off the internal Fusion Drive >> >> This strongly suggests a partial Fusion Drive failure, which macOS/APFS handles poorly when one physical store (the SSD tier) becomes unavailable or unreliable. Linux, treating the HDD as a simple block device, is unaffected. >> >> Diagnostic/benchmark tools show reasonable performance for the active boot device, but they do not expose intermittent Fusion metadata or tiering failures. >> >> Conclusion: >> >> CPU, RAM, GPU, and logic board appear sound >> >> Internal HDD is serviceable >> >> Fusion SSD blade (or its metadata) is the likely root cause >> >> Running macOS from an external SSD and Linux from the internal HDD is a stable and practical workaround >> >> Posting this in case it helps others with similar 2017 iMac/Fusion Drive symptoms. >> > > You'll need the kit of materials to adhesive the front glass back on, > after you cut it away to get inside the unit. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNlJRTRC_GI > > They depop the connector, on the motherboards > that don't have Fusion as a feature. That video still wasn't > good, in terms of showing where all the storage connectors are. > > Wiki has a description, but you really need to read some of the references > to see how it works. It's tiering and doesn't have sufficient notions of > RAID to be called RAID. You can artificially promote files, so they > end up on the SSD. It also does not look necessarily, like an Intel > technology (like SRT). It's not just some rebranding. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_Drive > > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/achieving-fusion-with-a-service-training-doc-ars-tears-open-apples-fusion-drive/ > > It's a shame this will achieve a "Swiss Cheese" on a failure. I just > think features like this, and just about all the Intel attempts to > do similar, are garbage. Why ? Because the amount of support questions, > hair loss on failure, who gives a fuck if something is fast, if it > isn't reliable ? Reliability comes first, fast comes second. There's no > way we want customers asking AI for advice on "how to step out of > a pot of boiling water". Just don't go into the boiling pot in > the first place, that's my advice. > > One repair tech on Reddit, said he'd done lots of Fusion repairs, > but he'd never had to open the one that just comes with some > SSD and nothing else. So he doesn't know what the connector looks > like, from not having to do maintenance on the actual good machine > to own. > > Doing tiered, preferentially writing everything to the faster > drive all the time, doing promotions and demotions, that puts a lot of wear > on the fast drive. And really, if you were going to do that, > the fast tier should have been Optane. As it could handle > a lot more write cycles than NAND. It runs a bit warm, so it > would have to be laid out to share a bit of cooling air. Thank you so very much for your comments, Paul. I'm not sure if I've asked you before. Have you ever explored here? https://x704.net/bbs/ Maybe it's another place where you could share your invaluable knowledge. -- Kind regards, David