Re: Putting together a computer from old components

Spiros Bousbouras <[email protected]>
Newsgroups alt.comp.hardware,uk.comp.homebuilt
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 15:39:49 -0000 (UTC)
Spiros Bousbouras <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 20:05:24 +0000
> Richard Kettlewell <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Spiros Bousbouras <[email protected]> writes:

[...]

> > > Is it possible to disable them ?
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Secure_Technology  does not say
> > > anything.
> > 
> > https://software.intel.com/sites/manageability/AMT_Implementation_and_Reference_Guide/default.htm?turl=WordDocuments%2Fdisablingintelamt.htm
> 
> This page is about disabling AMT :
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine :
>     The Management Engine is often confused with Intel AMT (Intel Active
>     Management Technology). AMT runs on the ME, but is only available on
>     processors with vPro. AMT gives device owners remote administration of
>     their computer,^[6] such as powering it on or off, and reinstalling the
>     operating system.
> 
>     However, the ME itself is built into all Intel chipsets since 2008, not
>     only those with AMT. While AMT can be unprovisioned by the owner, there
>     is no official, documented way to disable the ME.^[citation needed]
> 
> Although it says "citation needed" , I find it unlikely that , if there was a
> way to disable the ME , someone would not have added it to the article by now. In
> any case see also
> 
> https://www.techrepublic.com/article/is-the-intel-management-engine-a-backdoor/ :
[...]

There is also
www.howtogeek.com/334013/intel-management-engine-explained-the-tiny-computer-inside-your-cpu :

    You can't disable the Intel ME. Even if you disable Intel AMT features in
    your system's BIOS, the Intel ME coprocessor and software is still active
    and running. At this point, it's included on all systems with Intel CPUs
    and Intel provides no way to disable it.

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