Re: Hard drive error Follow UP

On 5/21/22 2:48 PM, Paul wrote:
> On 5/21/2022 7:28 AM, philo wrote:
>> On 5/20/2022 5:09 PM, philo wrote:
>>> On 5/19/22 3:47 PM, philo wrote:
>>>> I'm working on a Win10 machine that occasionally crashes on startup 
>>>> with the message: Windows has encountered an error.
>>>>
>>>> If I run CHKDSK /F I see that CHKDSK on
>>>> Win10 givers no annunciation as it did with previous Windows 
>>>> versions...all it does is say that the drive was repaired, then in 
>>>> reboots, but it did not actually fix anything.
>>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>
>>> Replaced the mechanical drive with an ssd and reloaded the OS.
>>>
>>>
>>> Used the machine today with no problems.
>>>
>>> It's just a backup machine but might as well keep it in as best 
>>> condition as possible.
>>>
>>
>> Now the the laptop is working better than ever with the SSD, figured I 
>> can put the old drive in an enclosure.
>>
>>  From another Win10 machine, I ran CHKLDSK /F  on the drive and not 
>> only did it see MANY errors and correct them, I also got messages as 
>> to exactly what was going on which is exactly as I would expect.
>>
>> Now I am wondering why CHKDSK /F was not working originally/
> 
> It's possible the CHKDSK used is not working the same
> as it used to.
> 
> Windows 10 (and possibly some earlier OSes) have "robust" NTFS.
> This means there is a background scan being done for NTFS. I
> suspect it is a background scan of "recently carried out operations",
> rather than a thorough evaluation.
> 
> Then, if you request CHKDSK from Properties, can that be run
> while the robust stuff runs in the background ? Dunno. Since
> I've never seen any documentation for the robust NTFS feature,
> I can't point you at a reference.
> 
> All I can tell you, is that Windows 7 remains the best place
> to be doing a CHKDSK. For whatever that is worth. Windows 7
> does not "understand" why there are Extended Attributes all
> over the place on the NTFS you ask it to fix. But, all the
> features are there to mechanically fix it. Even if it is
> slow as molasses in springtime. Win7 CHKDSK will eventually
> fix your file system.
> 
> And always do:
> 
>     chkdsk /?
> 
> to make sure you aren't missing some of the newer repair flags.
> On some occasion, I found a new option, and it actually helped me.
> 
>     Paul



Yes. There indeed were options I never heard about.

Anyway, the machine seems to be fine now and I will keep the old drive 
for additional backups