Re: Disable FastBoot

Frank Slootweg <[email protected]>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.os.windows-11
Organization NOYB
Message-ID <[email protected]>
VanguardLH <[email protected]> wrote:
> Anssi Saari <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > VanguardLH <[email protected]> writes:
> > 
> >> Anssi Saari <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dan Purgert <[email protected]> writes:
> >>> 
> >>>> Win10, 11 have that "FastBoot" thing that mucks with hardware releases
> >>>> on "reboot" (win basically goes into hibernate).
> >>> 
> >>> No. Reboot is always reboot, Windows would be completely useless without
> >>> that. "FastBoot" aka fast startup happens when shutting down if not
> >>> disabled. And it's hibernate without hibernating apps so fairly useless.
> >>
> >> Actually Fast Starup is a full hibernate (all memory copied into the
> >> hyberfil.sys file).
> > 
> > Source? For example here:
> > https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/test/weg/delivering-a-great-startup-and-shutdown-experience
> > "Starting with Windows 8.x, the default shutdown and restart scenario
> > has been updated and named fast startup. Fast startup begins with the
> > shutdown process and includes writing data to disk similar to the
> > hibernate process. A key difference is that all user sessions (Session
> > 1) are logged off and the remaining information is written to the
> > hiberfile."
> > 
> > When user sessions are logged off, all user apps die and so aren't
> > written to the hiberfil.sys, which, as I stated, makes this "fast
> > startup" fairly useless.
> 
> Depends on whether or not you chose to sleep (whether manually
> instigated, or by idle timeout) or shutdown while Fast Startup (aka
> FastBoot) was enabled.

[Fast Startup doesn't affect 'sleep'. See more below.]

> On sleep, Fast Startup saves an image of memory into the hiberfil.sys
> file.  That's in case power is lost during sleep which means a reboot is
> needed, so the hiberfil.sys file is used to write back the memory image
> on the boot.  If power is not lost during sleep mode, well, you just
> resume out of sleep mode.

  With "On sleep", you probably mean on Shutdown, because when Fast
Startup is enabled, it only affects, what happens during shutdown
(does a hibernate  of the OS, not the user session, etc.) and what
happens during boot/power-up (resumes from the hibernated system copy),
it does not affect what happens during sleep.

  Also the "That's in case power is lost during sleep" is misleading,
because that's not the/a reason for Fast Startup, I even doubt that Fast
Startup will use the hibernated system copy when rebooting/powering-on
after a power loss, because  the system might have been changed since
the time of the *previous* shutdown, so the hibernated system copy might
be stale/invalid.

[Much more of the same, IMO also not fully correct, deleted.]
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