Re: HTML arrogance (was: Re: Tutorial: Notepad++ shortcuts.xml macro converts unicode to the 95-keyboard ASCII characters)
Steve Hayes <[email protected]>
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| Organization | Khanya Publications |
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 10:07:30 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <[email protected]> wrote: >On 2025/12/15 8:56:53, R.Wieser wrote: >> Take for instance the kid who *purposely* posted HTML-ed messages, with the >> text part of it replaced with a demand we use a HTML-capable newsgroup >> readers. Quite the bit of arrogant barf (since using ES I have not seen him >> anymore. Likely ES has banned HTML posts for (text only) newsgroups like >> these ones). > >It's not just some "kid"; I've had companies that do same in emails. >Some even just say something like "we have tried to contact you in >words-and-pictures ..." in the plain-text part. The worst are ones where >their _system_ is sending two-part emails, but the person _sending_ them >has no idea that that's what's happening, and is unable to comprehend >when you try to explain. That's just about tolerable when it actually >works, but one large company (I think it was FindMyPast, a genealogy >company) had such a system for their newsletters that was _broken_ - the >plain text part (which I was reading by default) was stuck at sending >out the newsletter from one particular issue. I was asking them why they >were telling me about (e. g.) special offers that only had a few days to >run, and eventually they were telling me about them after they'd expired >(or events after they were over); of course, the people with whom I were >corresponding had no idea, and claimed the error was at my end. Most HTML-only emails are spam, or designed to look like spam. I sometimes get emails from banks and the like formatted to look as much like spam as possible, so I'm perpetually having to fish them out of spam queues -- they use lazy HTML, and other spammers tricks like one-pixel codes to let them know if you've read them. My mail reader is setot read plain-text by default, and only to display HTML if there isn't a plain-text version. But it will not display "lazy HTML" -- ie parts of the message that are not part of the message, but have to be fetched from a remote web site. It just displays those as greyed-out blanks. This might annoy the whizz-kid web designers, but email is not a web page, and so far it has kept me safe from a lot of the malware that uses all those tricks. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk