Re: Does anyone respect a Wi-Fi Access Point SSID with _optout_ or _nomap anymore?

Andy Burns <[email protected]> Sun, 21 Nov 2021 10:51:04 +0000
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.internet.wireless,alt.comp.networking.routers
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soyon wrote:

> Does anyone respect a Wi-Fi Access Point SSID with _optout_ or _nomap
> anymore?

I expect google and microsoft still do, but it only takes one or two companies 
to *not* respect it, and there are plenty of companies out there whose sole 
purpose is to produce databases for wifi location.

> Mozilla apparently said they'd respect the SSID_optout designation.
> "Mozilla's client applications do not collect information about WiFi access
> points whose SSID is hidden or ends with the string _nomap."
> https://location.services.mozilla.com/optout
>
> What "client application" are they speaking about anyway?

That would be my biggest question, a web browser shouldn't see any details (MAC 
addr, SSID  etc) of the connection it is using, if they still had their 
FirefoxOS then that might be involved, but as sfor "client apps" I can't think 
that anything they provide should have access.

> Especially as it seems M$ long ago deprecated use of _optout in the SSID.
> https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/05/microsoft-disables-wi-fi-sense-on-windows-10/

as soon as once company requires you to add "_optout" an another requires 
"_nomap" then someone else might require "_dontmapmebro" the battle is lost due 
to length of SSIDs

> Worse, nobody is respecting Google's _nomap appended to your Wi-Fi SSID!
> https://blog.appcensus.io/2021/10/25/what-the-huq/
> 
> Because even when opted out, your location privacy is still not respected!

People (I suspect my self included) don't pay sufficient heed to what 
permissions an app requests.

> https://shirlleycoyle.wordpress.com/2021/10/25/location-data-firm-got-gps-data-from-apps-even-when-people-opted-out/
> 
> If you are broadcasting your SSID

You mean not setting the "pretend you cant see this SSID" flag?

> can I ask you a question?
> Do you use the _optout_ and/or the _nomap on your own router's SSID?

No.