Re: My old CCC GUI refuses to show up. :(

In alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> > Hello.
> > 
> > I can't open my old ATI/AMD Radeon 4870 (512 MB of VRAM)'s video card driver 
> > (13-9-legacy_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql.exe)'s Catalyst Control Center GUI (still 
> > can run its background <install location>\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CCC.exe process 
> > though) in my over decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. It used to work a few 
> > months ago though so something broke. I tried uninstalling, rebooting, and 
> > reinstalling AMD driver+CCC suite into a new directory, but it still didn't work.
> > 
> > I still can extend and unextend my 1920x1080 desktop to my secondary old dumb 
> > 21.5" Samsung SyncMaster T22B350ND HDTV with my primary 23.6" 16:9 1920x1080 
> > pixels ASUS VS247H-P monitor. Both video connections are using DVI->VGA adapters 
> > and VGA cables via an old Y2K OmniCube KVM. I don't think it is a hardware issue.
> > 
> > http://pastebin.com/raw/MBJP13hc for my detailed event logs and opening about 
> > showing a crash with an unhandled exception with MS .NET Framework. What's the 
> > problem? Is it my .NET? Something else? I hope I don't have to reinstall my W7 
> > from scratch to get it back. :(
> > 
> > Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

> This seems perfectly reasonable.

> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/blogs/astebner/mailbag-what-version-of-the-net-framework-is-included-in-what-version-of-the-os

>    "Windows 7 (all editions) includes

>        .NET Framework 3.5.1 as an OS component.

>        This means you will get the .NET Framework 2.0 SP2,
>                                                   3.0 SP2 and
>                                                   3.5 SP1
>        plus a few post 3.5 SP1 bug fixes.

>        *******

>        3.0 SP2 and 3.5 SP1 can be added or removed via the
>        Programs and Features control panel.

> What the author really means, is 2.0 SP2 cannot be removed
> via Windows Features. If your damage is in 3.0 or 3.5, you're
> in luck, toggling the button, doing some reboots between button
> state changes, could "repair" the v3.0 and v3.5 folders. Only
> an OS Repair Install can fix the v2.0.50727 folder. SurCHECK
> is unlikely to care about .NET, but you can try that if
> in a mood to waste time. SurCHECK is the lame replacement
> for the DISM feature Windows 7 never got backported from
> later OSes. Since the features in question don't have a strong
> OS component, the backport would likely have cost nothing for them.

> https://i.postimg.cc/HLGkM5hw/Win7-repair.gif

> CCC control panel relies on 2.0 SP2. 2.0 SP2 cannot be
> removed or repaired, as it is part of the "base" OS.

> Aaron Stebners "netfx_setupverifier_new.zip" confirms this
> for us, although somewhat clumsily (as the tester menu
> grays out and won't allow selecting just anything you want
> to test). Aaron Stebner appears to be a Microsoft employee
> from the .NET group, who has constructed cleaning and
> verification tools for the great unwashed masses.

Is there an official web site for this program to download from?


> The three .NET layers in question (2/3/3.5) share the same
> CLR version number. Early versions of CCC relied on 2.0 ,
> which is the one we can't fix without a Windows 7 Repair Install.
> I could be quite wrong, but generally DISM/SFC are not focused
> on .NET, because .NET started life totally separate
> from the OS. Whereas today, things like the Windows Firewall
> have a .NET dependency, and if Windows Firewall won't start,
> the network stack can be held hostage (won't start either until
> Firewall starts).

> I know you're not interested in Repair Installs of your
> Windows 7, so you can try the simple things and see how
> they work out.

Thanks. According to 
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-cat-win-13-9 web 
page, it needs .NET Framework v4.5 -- "* The AMD Catalyst 13.9 Software 
Suite requires Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5 to be installed.  Microsoft 
.NET Framework 4.5 is included in all Catalyst packages)." 

I wonder if there is a third party software to take over old CCC with 
similiar features like checking statistcs, overriding fan speeds, video 
options, etc.
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