Re: Win10 password?

Paul wrote:
> Robert Baer wrote:
>>   So i got a nice collection of "programs"/"apps carefully selected on 
>> a USB stick ready to go.
>>   After an hour or so, had the "new" Lenovo connected keyboard/mouse/VGA.
>>
>>   Nice splash screen.
>>   What the hell do i do for the unknown password?
>>
> 
> During the OutOfBoxExperience (OOBE, those dialogs that ask
> about setting up the machine), did you define a password ???
> Is the password blank ?
> 
> If you got this machine and it did not prompt for a new name
> ("baer") so you could have C:\users\baer , then the machine
> may be used and maybe it had C:\users\wally and you did not
> notice ?
> 
> *******
> 
> Step 1 : Around the login screen, there should be an icon
>           with various options in it and one of the options
>           should be a shutdown-type option.
> 
> That's to get you out of the prompt. Without just pushing
> the power button, as I might do if I was upset or angry.
> 
> The second question is, whether your setup autologs at boot.
> Some people have their machine set up, so it locks and prompts
> for a password, if the machine is inactive for ten minutes.
> Whereas, when the machine boots, they'd used "netplwiz" to remove
> the need for a login password.
> 
> If this was the case, then
> 
> Step 2 : Now, boot up again, and if you have autolog, then
>           you'll be back into the screen, and you can use
>           Start : Run : control to get to control panels, then
>           use the Power control panel to disable the screen locker.
> 
>           If you don't have autolog, you'll have to use a password
>           reset hack if the account is a local one. If you've been
>           using an MSA password, then that's going to be tougher
>           to fix, if you've lost the MSA password. You can do a password
>           reset, but this requires that the email account used to set up
>           the MSA, to still be available.
> 
> The only way this password is "unknown", is if
> this machine is used. If you haven't set it up yet,
> you can use the "reset" procedure in the Lenovo
> manual, to reload C: . Then it should go through OOBE
> again, and you can define the local account and
> its local password. Do the local account first,
> so you have an account with your preferred name.
> 
> If the Lenovo is so used, it has "Refurbisher Windows 10"
> on it, then you would need the "Refurbisher Windows 10"
> DVD to reinstall. The Refurb machines don't seem to have a
> restore partition on them. A Refurb machine doesn't have
> a Lenovo OS on it either. It's closer to a generic
> copy of Windows that a retail DVD would make. If you wanted
> a restore image, you have to make one (on a USB stick for example).
> Windows has some procedure for preparing such. I made one
> a few years ago as an experiment, and it took a couple
> tries to complete.
> 
> If the machine has Refurbisher Windows 10 on it,
> one of the first things you do is use Nirsoft Produkey
> or MagicJellyBean, to record the 25 character license key
> for later. As the key on a Refurb, might not be the same
> as the license key the machine came with. (The refurbisher
> scrapes the COA off the machine sometimes, before shipping,
> leaving nothing for the qualifying OS.)
> 
> Are we having fun yet ? I've been through some of this,
> I don't know if you can tell or not. One diff with me,
> is I asked the seller (store downtown) for the installer
> DVD and they had one. Mine is a Windows 7 Refurbisher.
> Microsoft stopped shipping those hologram DVDs some
> time ago. But no matter what media you use, you'll need
> a key, and the key isn't necessarily in the BIOS as an
> ACPI MSDM table either. That's why you need Produkey.
> 
> *******
> 
> Using the "windir" option here, you can carry the hard drive
> from the Lenovo, over to your working technician machine,
> and while booted with the C: of the technician machine,
> check the E:\Windows of the Lenovo drive you installed
> into the computer for maintenance.
> 
> https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/product_cd_key_viewer.html
> 
> It is possible to capture the key off the Lenovo drive,
> even if you can't see the screen. It just means plugging
> the drive into another machine so ProduKey can get at it.
> 
> Windows Defender considers ProduKey to be "hackware" and
> it will attempt to quarantine it. This is just harassment
> from Microsoft. The software performs a necessary function
> for maintenance purposes.
> 
>     Paul

    Thanks.
    With only 2 SATA ports, i will BAERly make it possible.

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