Re: Proposal - alt.magick.astrology

Corey White  <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 02:00:05 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Corey White  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 00:02:14 +0000, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Corey White <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>For your newsgroups file:
>>>>>alt.magick.astrology	A place where astrologers discuss magick.
>>>> 
>>>> Hooray! A tab character!
>>>> 
>>>> The description should be a phrase made up of key words that don't
>>>> repeat words from the group name, ending in a period. You have no useful
>>>> key words; "place" and "discuss" should never appear in a description.
>>>> 
>>>>>CHARTER: alt.magick.astrology exists to discuss the use of astrology for
>>>>>working magick across cultures.
>>>> 
>>>>>The newsgroup will not be moderated. Binary, off-topic, spam and
>>>>>advertising posts are not permitted. Discussion of hacks, cracks, warez,
>>>>>serial numbers or the illegal exchange of copyrighted software is
>>>>>banned.
>>>> 
>>>>>JUSTIFICATION: Using astrology as a form of magick is an ancient
>>>>>practice that could benefit from usenet discussion.
>>>> 
>>>>>Thank you.
>>>> 
>>>> That's not justification. Justification is you, the proponent, looking
>>>> on Usenet for topical discussion taking place and figuring out if the
>>>> proposed group would have an audience. If there aren't 10 articles a day
>>>> already that are part of on-topic discussion and not just someone
>>>> reposting articles from the Web, the group is unlikely to find an
>>>> audience.
>>>> 
>>>> Please note that no one in alt.config approves newsgroup proposals. You
>>>> are free to send the newgroup as you wish, or to keep looking for an
>>>> audience. I would strongly urge you to find such discussion already
>>>> taking place on Usenet so you know who might subscribe to the group.
>>>> 
>>>> Also: Users have to request creation of the proposed group from their
>>>> News administrator, and then subscribe to it in their newsreader.
>>>> 
>>>> I realize alt.magick.* is an existing second level hierarchy, so hooray!
>>>> for that. Nevertheless, there are lots of astrology newsgroups. Is
>>>> magick ever discussed in them?
>>>> 
>>>> I doubt the moderated groups are active but you should check.
>>>> 
>>>> alt.astrology           Twinkle, twinkle, little planet.
>>>> alt.astrology.asian     The stars as they appear over the Orient.
>>>> alt.astrology.cujo      Cujo the resident kook-hunter of alt.astrology
>>>> alt.astrology.ghouls    A place for the assholes to put their
>>>> postdictions and get flamed alt.astrology.marketplace       Astrology
>>>> business; for-sale, want-to-buy ads.
>>>> alt.astrology.metapsych Discussion of astrology
>>>> alt.astrology.metapsych.cujo    Cujo kook-hunter of
>>>> alt.astrology.metapsych alt.astrology.metapsych.moderated      
>>>> Metaphysical Astrology (Moderated)
>>>> alt.astrology.moderated Study and practice of astrology. (moderated)
>>>> (Moderated)
>>>> alt.astrology.moderated.metapsych       No description. (Moderated)
>>>> alt.astrology.pro       No description.
>>>> alt.astrology.scam      discussion of astrology as a con
>>>> alt.astrology.toadology discussion of toadology vs. astrology
>>>> alt.astrology.tropical  Study & debate of tropical astrology.
>>>> (Moderated)
>>>> alt.fan.jai-maharaj     A contributor to alt.astrology and
>>>> soc.culture.indian.
>>>> alt.newage.astrology    No description.
>>>> free.uk.astrology       No description.
>>>> relcom.astrology        Round table of Astrologer.RU (Moderated)
>>>
>>>I tried sending a control message from my eternal september account, but 
>>>nothing happened. X)
>>>
>>>I have two reasons that I would like to create the group.  The first is 
>>>because I love usenet and want to understand and experience the process of 
>>>creating a group.  The other is because I think it would free up space for 
>>>discussion that is already on alt.magick.
>>
>>Usenet doesn't work like that. The more discussion in a single
>>newsgroup, the better.
>>
>>Sending the newgroup message doesn't create the newsgroup. Users have to
>>request creation from their News administrators, then subscribe to it.
>>
>>This is the proponent's actual role, to get discussion going in the
>>proposed newsgroup, to get potential users to request creation from
>>their own News administrators, then to subscribe and start posting. The
>>proponent's job isn't finished till there's sustainable discussion, at
>>least 10 articles a day.
>>
>
>So Frugal Usenet has the new group on their server now:
>alt.magick.astrology
>
>If you could offer any help getting the new group to propagate I would
>be happy. X)

You've get to send that newgroup message, as most News servers require
that there be an archived newgroup message first. You've got to find users
currently discussing the topic who will request creation of the group
locally, and then post to it, otherwise this isn't going anywhere.