Re: [PROPOSAL Mk2] alt.comp.software.thunderbird

Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman wrote:

>>My suggestion is that you post the headers of the control message in the
>>body of a followup article and just let me eyeball them before you send
>>the newgroup messages.

>This is the Thunderbird control message from my drafts folder (the 
>Firefox and seaMonkey versions are essentially the same)

>======================
>From: Andy Burns <[email protected]>
>Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.comp.software.thunderbird

This is correct. It's the way very old Usenet servers required the
command to be sent. We still use it today to have something on Subject.

Your Control header is missing. It's not a control message without the
Control header.

Control: newgroup alt.comp.software.thunderbird

An Approved header is also required.

Approved: [email protected]

>Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.thunderbird

This is correct.

>Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 11:50:36 +0100
>User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) 
>Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>Content-Language: en-GB
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

>For your newsgroups file:
>alt.comp.software.thunderbird	Community support of mail/news client.

Hey! You got the tab character in there!

>CHARTER

>A group for unofficial support of Thunderbird by the community of users,
>discussion will include configuration, add-ons and features in new
>versions.  The group will not be moderated.  Advertising, binaries and
>multipart postings with HTML alternative parts are not permitted.

>JUSTIFICATION

>Existing discussions of Thunderbird take place on the private nntp
>server news.mozilla.org, the group mozilla.support.thunderbird had 3376
>messages in the last 12 months. Unfortunately this server will be closed
>down after 3rd April

I strongly suggest that you do the traditional Justification of a 90 day
lookback counting ONLY articles (not messages) that are the type of
discussion you want in the proposed group. This is your potential
audience, the people you are going to personally encourage to request
creation of the new group and to post in it. You don't look beyond 90
days because anyone else isn't an active participant any longer.

You are doing this for yourself, to know who the audience is.

A thread that consists of a root article reposting a Web page with no
followup isn't discussion and crossposts don't count as traffic for the
group you propose as they just don't justify the proposal for lack of
uniqueness.