Re: [PROPOSAL Mk2] alt.comp.software.thunderbird

Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman wrote:

>>I did see the newgroup messages at AIOE in valid syntax.

>>Please hold off on requesting group creation locally. I saw that you
>>already made the request on eternal-september.

>>Ray Banana and other News administrators check the archive of control
>>messages at ftp.isc.org. You should have done that first to make sure
>>they got processed.

>I did check it, as you say they weren't gzipped there yet, but I could 
>see them in control.newgroup on E-S and figured Ray would trust his own 
>server ...

In the past, Ray and others have told us that they check the archive at
ftp.isc.org. Control messages as received are unreliable.

Why?

Russ enforces a specific syntax that he has well documented in the
READMEs. If the control message gets archived, then it's both a valid
newgroup message AND the group name is valid. That the group name is valid
is the most important sanity check there is. If INN updates the active
and newsgroups files, then the newsgroups file line was in valid syntax.

If a News server has the control.* hierarchy set up, then control
messages appear that if they barely resemble control messages but cannot
be fed to ctrlinnd to create the newsgroup locally.

There are several examples of newgroup messages in bad syntax in
control.newgroup.

Control messages in control.* groups are merely a local archive of News
articles with Control and Approved headers, not control messages that
were processed and not control messages without syntax errors.