Re: William T. Parry gets rid of Disjunction introduction
dbush <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | sci.logic,sci.math,comp.theory,comp.ai.philosophy |
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On 6/30/2026 9:55 AM, olcott wrote: > On 6/30/2026 3:10 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 29/06/2026 16:55, olcott wrote: >>> On 6/28/2026 4:32 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 27/06/2026 21:29, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 6/27/2026 1:24 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>>> On 6/27/2026 2:03 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/27/2026 12:54 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/27/2026 11:11 AM, polcott wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 6/27/2026 2:08 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 26/06/2026 15:49, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/26/2026 1:49 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/06/2026 04:32, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> William T. Parry, Entailment Logics >>>>>>>>>>>>> gets rid of Disjunction introduction >>>>>>>>>>>>> to prevent the principle of explosion >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A simple logical matrix and sequent calculus for >>>>>>>>>>>>> Parry’s logic of Analytic Implication >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The main and distinctive feature of PAI (and of the many >>>>>>>>>>>>> systems of analytic implication belonging to its ilk) is >>>>>>>>>>>>> the rejection of the classically valid principle of Addition, >>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes also referred to as Disjunction Introduction. In >>>>>>>>>>>>> other words, the principle leading from a formula ϕ to a >>>>>>>>>>>>> disjunction of the form ϕ ∨ ψ, where ψ is an arbitrary >>>>>>>>>>>>> formula. Parry blamed on this principle the derivability >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the paradoxes of strict implication—given that it is >>>>>>>>>>>>> famously featured in Lewis’ derivation of an arbitrary >>>>>>>>>>>>> formula ψ from a contradiction of the form ϕ ∧ ¬ϕ. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://philarchive.org/archive/SZMASL >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> He also gets rid of an efficient way to convince people who >>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>> understand much of logic. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As I recently showed in another post. I figured >>>>>>>>>>> all this out on my own. I didn't even know that >>>>>>>>>>> anyone else ever did this. I just knew that when >>>>>>>>>>> trying to find out what is deduced from a set of >>>>>>>>>>> premises that you cannot pop in another sentence >>>>>>>>>>> from out of nowhere and get a correct conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> By popping in another sentence from out of nowhere >>>>>>>>>>> (as it shows above) the principle of explosion is >>>>>>>>>>> derived. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The usual meaning of proof is a sequence of statement where >>>>>>>>>> eachstatement either is a premis or follows from one or more >>>>>>>>>> earlier >>>>>>>>>> statements >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Except with Disjunction introduction, that is its problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So you're saying that in the following natural language statement: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is a key issue in that it creates the >>>>>>> psychotic break from reality known as the >>>>>>> Principle of Explosion, otherwise it may >>>>>>> make no difference at all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stay on topic or I will block you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Explain in detail how the below which you dishonestly trimmed is >>>>>> off- topic. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The topic is how Disjunction introduction enables the >>>>> Principle of Explosion. >>>> >>>> It does not. In any sensible logic every tautology is provable. >>>> Then the principle of explosion follows. >>> >>> POE is unprovable in both of these more sensible systems >>> of logic. >> >> THe expression "these system" above does not denote. >> > > Parry’s logic of Analytic Implication > > Relevance Logic > https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-relevance/ > >>> The POE is an actual psychotic break from >>> reality when one pays full and complete attention to >>> the underlying semantics and does not stupidly take >>> semantics out of logic and put it in a separate model. >> >> No, it is not. The principle of explosion is about consequencies >> of a false premise, which already is a break from reality even >> when no consequence is inferred. >> > > Only because semantics is ignored. > There is nothing semantically meaningful about a > contradiction that derives anything at all besides FALSE. > > There is nothing semantically meaningful about FALSE > that derives anything at all besides FALSE. False, as you have admitted otherwise on the record (see below): On 6/28/2026 11:56 PM, dbush wrote: > On 6/27/2026 11:34 PM, dbush wrote: >> On 6/27/2026 11:23 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 6/27/2026 9:02 PM, dbush wrote: >>>> On 6/27/2026 9:53 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>> On 6/27/2026 9:49 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 6/27/2026 8:42 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/27/2026 9:40 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/27/2026 8:29 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>>>>>> Given that the following natural language statement is true: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> Earth is the third planet from the sun. >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In the following natural language statement: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> At least one of the following statements is true: >>>>>>>>> - Earth is the third planet from the sun. >>>>>>>>> - <X> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Given that <X> is any *truth bearing* natural language statement, >>>> does there exist a statement X such that the condition "At least one >>>> of the following statements is true" is false? >>>> >>> >>> Head games will be ignored. >>> >> >> Explain in detail how this is a head game. >> >> Failure to either answer the above question or explain how it is a >> head game in your next reply or within one hour of you next post in >> this newsgroup will be taken as your official, on-the-record admission >> that Disjunction introduction is in fact truth preserving and valid, >> and therefore so is the Principle of Explosion. >> > > Let the record show that Peter Olcott made the following post in this > newsgroup: > > On 6/28/2026 10:52 PM, olcott wrote: > > Q also can't bake a birthday cake, this does not make > > Q in any way "incomplete" relative to what it was > > defined to do. > > ... > > And more that one hour has passed with no attempt to answer the above > question or explain why it is a head game. Therefore, as per the above > criteria: > > Let The Record Show > > That Peter Olcott > > Has *Officially* Admitted: > > That Disjunction introduction is in fact truth preserving and valid, and > therefore so is the Principle of Explosion.