Re: The simple essence of Proof Theoretic Semantics

André G. Isaak <[email protected]>
Newsgroups sci.logic,comp.theory,sci.math,comp.ai.philosophy
Organization Christians and Atheists United Against Creeping Agnosticism
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 2026-06-30 21:10, olcott wrote:
> On 6/30/2026 10:02 PM, dbush wrote:

>> What is was is a way to show more easily how you're wrong.  That you 
>> claim that "no number is equal to its successor" is semantically 
>> invalid shows everyone that your ideas are worthless.
>>
> 
> This is more accurate:
> The truth value of (∀ x, S(x) ≠ x) does not exist in Q.

But as soon as you bring up truth values you're no longer talking about 
PTS which semantically divides expressions into 'provable' and 'not 
provable'.

In truth-functional semantics, the law of the excluded middle dictates 
that ∀x, S(x) ≠ x must be either true or false. It's truth value might 
be unknown to us but there is a big difference between unknown and 
nonexistent.

Within PTS there is absolutely no contradiction about claiming that ∀x, 
S(x) ≠ x is unprovable while at the same time claiming that its negation 
is unprovable, but that both are perfectly legitimate and meaningful 
expressions of Q. If you think otherwise, provide a reference to some 
author working in PTS who actually asserts something of this sort. I 
suspect you can't because this simply isn't what PTS claims. It's you 
imposing your own views on a system developed by others which you do not 
fully understand.

André


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