Re: The simple essence of Proof Theoretic Semantics
olcott <[email protected]>
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On 7/1/2026 3:13 PM, André G. Isaak wrote: > On 2026-07-01 13:53, olcott wrote: >> On 7/1/2026 2:31 PM, André G. Isaak wrote: >>> On 2026-07-01 12:51, olcott wrote: >>>> On 7/1/2026 1:45 PM, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>>> On 2026-07-01 12:15, dbush wrote: >>>>>> On 7/1/2026 2:01 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> The same thing as: "cats are animals" expressed in >>>>>>> English has no English meaning in Chinese. >>>>>> >>>>>> I didn't ask for an example. I asked for a definition of what it >>>>>> mean for the truth value of a statement to not exist in a formal >>>>>> system. >>>>> >>>>> I'm actually not convinced that Olcott understands what a >>>>> definition is. I've frequently asked him for definitions and he >>>>> invariably responds with an example or an analogy (assuming he >>>>> responds at all). He doesn't get that examples don't take the place >>>>> of definitions. Examples can be useful for clarifying definitions, >>>>> but they aren't particularly useful on their own. >>>>> >>>>> André >>>>> >>>> >>>> You want a definition look-it-up. >>> >>> Until someone publishes an Olcott to Standard English dictionary, >>> this isn't really an option. >>> >>> André >>> >> >> True(L, X) ≡ ∃Γ ⊆ BaseFacts(L) (Γ ⊢ X) // copyright Olcott 2018 >> has been updated to this >> >> True(L, X):= ∃Γ ⊆ AtomicFacts(L) (Γ ⊢ X) > > That claims what it means to have the truth value 'true' (or at least it > would if you defined AtomicFacts in a coherent way). It doesn't in any > way clarify what you think it means for something to not have a truth > value. > > André > When I define a term hundreds of times and you did not bother to pay attention that is your mistake and your fault. -- Copyright 2026 Olcott My 28 year goal has been to make "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language" reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge. The complete structure of this system is now defined. The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is comprised of two types of relations between finite strings: (a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true. My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal language such as CycL of the Cyc project. (b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).