Re: Olcott gets rid of the Principle of Explosion
dbush <[email protected]>
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On 7/6/2026 9:56 AM, olcott wrote: > On 7/6/2026 2:16 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 04/07/2026 16:15, olcott wrote: >>> On 7/4/2026 1:37 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 03/07/2026 17:46, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 7/3/2026 3:17 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>> On 02/07/2026 17:37, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> x = "The Moon is made from green cheese" >>>>>>> y = "Donald Trump is the one and only Lord and Savior Jesus Christ: >>>>>>> POE concludes (x ∧ ¬x) ⊢ y >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "the principle of explosion is the theorem according to >>>>>>> which any statement can be proven from a contradiction" >>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When you pay attention to the meaning of the words >>>>>>> and correctly apply correct semantic entailment on >>>>>>> the basis of the meaning of those words then the >>>>>>> principle of explosion is a PSYCHOTIC BREAK FROM REALITY. >>>>>> >>>>>> No, it is not. The premise x above is a break from reality. But that >>>>>> is not in logic, it was introduced by you. Even without the principle >>>>>> of explosion it is possible to infer a false conclusion from a false >>>>>> premise. >>>>> >>>>> Yes. From "I am 35 feet tall" ⊢ "I am 35 feet tall" >>>>> and as you said my premise is literally FALSE >>>>> (P ∧ ~P) ⊢ FALSE >>>>> >>>>>> The principle of explosion merely facilitates tinding a >>>>>> conclusion that is so obviously false that it convincingly proves >>>>>> that the remise is false. >>>>> >>>>> There is nothing semantically relevant that can be >>>>> proven from a contradiction besides bare FALSE and >>>>> bare FALSE only entails bare FALSE. >>>> >>>> Yes, there is. From the contradiction "I have blue eyes and >>>> I don't have blue eyes" one can prove "I have blue eyes" and >>>> "I don't have blue eyes", both of which are semantically >>>> relevant, and one of which in addition is false. >>> >>> That is greatly restricted from the POE. >> >> Restrictions from the POE make lie detection harder and therefore lying >> easier. You may like that but others have different preferencies. >> > > Olcott gets rid of the Principle of Explosion > In Olcott Logic (P ∧ ¬P) ⊢ ⊥ and ⊥ ⊢ ⊥ > > Why would you say that when you agreed on the record that it's valid because disjunction introduction is valid (see below)? On 6/28/2026 11:56 PM, dbush wrote: > On 6/27/2026 11:34 PM, dbush wrote: >> On 6/27/2026 11:23 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 6/27/2026 9:02 PM, dbush wrote: >>>> On 6/27/2026 9:53 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>> On 6/27/2026 9:49 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 6/27/2026 8:42 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/27/2026 9:40 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/27/2026 8:29 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>>>>>> Given that the following natural language statement is true: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> Earth is the third planet from the sun. >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In the following natural language statement: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> At least one of the following statements is true: >>>>>>>>> - Earth is the third planet from the sun. >>>>>>>>> - <X> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Given that <X> is any *truth bearing* natural language statement, >>>> does there exist a statement X such that the condition "At least one >>>> of the following statements is true" is false? >>>> >>> >>> Head games will be ignored. >>> >> >> Explain in detail how this is a head game. >> >> Failure to either answer the above question or explain how it is a >> head game in your next reply or within one hour of you next post in >> this newsgroup will be taken as your official, on-the-record admission >> that Disjunction introduction is in fact truth preserving and valid, >> and therefore so is the Principle of Explosion. >> > > Let the record show that Peter Olcott made the following post in this > newsgroup: > > On 6/28/2026 10:52 PM, olcott wrote: > > Q also can't bake a birthday cake, this does not make > > Q in any way "incomplete" relative to what it was > > defined to do. > > ... > > And more that one hour has passed with no attempt to answer the above > question or explain why it is a head game. Therefore, as per the above > criteria: > > Let The Record Show > > That Peter Olcott > > Has *Officially* Admitted: > > That Disjunction introduction is in fact truth preserving and valid, and > therefore so is the Principle of Explosion.