Re: The simple essence of Proof Theoretic Semantics
olcott <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy,sci.math |
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| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 7/6/2026 4:00 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 04/07/2026 16:38, olcott wrote: >> On 7/4/2026 2:41 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 03/07/2026 21:10, olcott wrote: >>>> On 7/3/2026 12:10 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>> On 7/3/2026 12:52 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 7/3/2026 10:50 AM, dbush wrote: >>>>>>> On 7/3/2026 11:36 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/3/2026 4:22 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 02/07/2026 17:51, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do you know enough about C to understand that >>>>>>>>>> dbush example was foolish nonsense when proposed >>>>>>>>>> to show the halting problem counter-example? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is a valid example of a C program. It was present as a part >>>>>>>>> of a >>>>>>>>> claim about you, and your response was the false claim that "That >>>>>>>>> is just nonsense". Later in the discussion you offer more evidence >>>>>>>>> to support his claim. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> His halt decider did not look at its input. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nor is it required to. All it needs to do is map inputs to outputs. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So a piece of metal sitting on the ground is an automobile. >>>>> >>>>> Does algorithm H map machine description X and machine input Y to >>>>> an output of either 0 or 1? >>>>> >>>> Ignoring the input IS NOT A MAPPING >>> >>> No, but dbush's program H implements a mapping anyway. It just is >>> a different mapping from the one a halt decider is required to do. >> >> Making it complete nonsense. > > The program has a well defined meaning so it is not non-sense. > That it may be too big or complex for you is irrelevant. > It has zero correspondence to the HP counter-example input thus the claim that is does is a damned lie. -- Copyright 2026 Olcott My 28 year goal has been to make "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language" reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge. The complete structure of this system is now defined. The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is comprised of two types of relations between finite strings: (a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true. My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal language such as CycL of the Cyc project. (b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).