Re: Apple changed their documentation at my request but it proves they don't care about privacy

On 2026-09-06 02:06, Jon Ribbens wrote:
> Firstly, I do not like crossposting to so many groups. What group
> are you actually reading this thread in, so that I can limit the
> crossposts please?

I understand, but that could be a problem to people that are already 
reading on a "different" group.

Your comments are easier to understand that Arlen (aka Maria) posts. He 
is not clearly explaining the issues and wants people to read a lot of 
documentation, instead of just posting an actual summary of the 
situation with explanations.

Ie, what was Apple doing, why is that bad, what have they changed, is 
that enough and why, what are the actual dangers to people.

Complete, and short text.


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> On 2026-09-05, Maria Sophia <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Jon Ribbens wrote:

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>>> As I say that's a pretty unusual thing to do (travelling with a router).
>>> Google's API does seem more sensible though (give it MAC addresses, it
>>> tells you where you probably are, rather than giving you the recorded
>>> individual locations of all those MAC addresses).
>>
>> I think your claim that it's "pretty unusual" for people to take their
>> router with them when they move from one apartment to another is skewed.
>>
>> If I ask 100 people who recently moved, do you really think it would be
>> only 1 or 2 people who took their home router with them when they moved?
> 
> I could quibble with that inasmuch as ISPs tend to provide the APs when
> you order the connection, so a new connection usually implies a new AP
> (in the UK, anyway). But I was talking about travelling with an AP,
> e.g. on business, not moving house.

Most people here get a free (rented, not purchased) router with AP from 
their ISP. When they move house, the old router has to be returned to 
the ISP (nominally), and they get a new router automatically when 
contracting a connection at the new location. So they don't have a problem.

Some of those might have a secondary AP of their own.

Only people that buy a router or AP have a problem. And most do not 
care. I don't. Only those that are using _nomap or perhaps those that 
hide the SSID.



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