Re: Apple changed their documentation at my request but it proves they don't care about privacy

Carlos E.R. wrote:
> Keith Thompson argues that your post is off topic in comp.lang.python, 
> because you are not discussing python code. You simply posted a link 
> that contains a reference to a Python program and said you run it. You 
> are not discussing the code itself or making any question about it.
> 
> And he is right, IMNSHO.

People can't understand what the issue is if they don't understand the
breadcrumb trail from your router access point to my Win10 python runs.

They just can't. 
Their stone-age knowledge of networking doesn't prepare them for it.

Keith didn't understand that you have to run the python code that was
pointed to in the very first post, Carlos, which Jon found easily.

The instant I read the paper, I found and ran the Python code on Win10.
Why can Jon and I do it, but Keith complains he can't read the paper?

BTW, Keith can whine all he wants that Python code isn't python code.
But it's clear he's just whining about something he didn't even read.

>> More to the point, I don't bring the paintings on my wall with me when I
>> move, but that doesn't mean that nobody brings their paintings with them.
>> 
> 
> I did not say "nobody". That's you reading what is not in what I said.

Jesus Christ, Carlos. Have you never once taken a course in basic logic?

Because you don't own a red car, you claim (in effect) red cars can't
exist. Your entire rebuttal consist of that? WTF? It's ridiculous.

For some odd reason, your claim that because you do it one way, that you
think that refutes the fact that BILLIONS of people do it differently.

I wouldn't mind if you made that preposterous argument only once, as I'd
only need to point out your nonsensical bizarre point of view only once.

But you've been foisting that grotesque farcical rebuttal on us since we
started investigating this issue, oh, since way back in December 2026.

When will you stop proposing that absurd rebuttal that the fact you don't
own a red car, you think, negates the fact that billions of other people
can own red cars?

>> The fact you get your access point from the ISP, while true, is an absurd
>> way of your attempt to refute the facts proposed in this respected paper.
> 
> I don't refute anything, except that you can only track a minority of 
> users worldwide.

Clearly you did not read the paper. Read it Carlos. 

 *Surveilling the Masses with Wi-Fi-Based Positioning Systems*
 <https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.14975>

Do not respond until you've shown you read the paper, please.


>> The fact that's your major rebuttal indicates you haven't read the paper.
>> Read it. Please.
> 
> No.

If someone hasn't read the paper, they can't possibly understand the issue.


 *Surveilling the Masses with Wi-Fi-Based Positioning Systems*
 <https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.14975>

>> Every person who tried it, found out every single statement to be true.
> 
> It is good Usenet manners to explain the subject in the body.

The subject says:
 a. Apple changed their documentation 
 b. at my request 
 c. but it proves they don't care about privacy

Since we provided the old documentation in the past, those trolls (like
Winston) who said there's no "proof", were simply trolling us, as they
didn't even read to know it never said that until after I contacted them.

At my request, would be hard for anyone here to verify, although the time
points all line up, as you all know I complained about this back in
December, and I stated then, that I had my neighbor file the RADAR report.

I also stated at that time, they removed my hidden BSSID, but I'm likely
the only one in the world who has had that favor (as far as we would know).

The part about privacy is harder for people on this group to comprehend
since they're all seemingly stuck in the stone age of wireless networking.

They don't know how to follow the BSSID/GPS breadcrumb trail from an iOS or
Android device (as it's very different!) to the Apple or Google database
(as that's different too!) and eventually to the Python code that Keith
says doesn't exist but which both Jon and I dutifully ran to confirm.

To put it bluntly, everyone but Apple will NOT distribute your BSSID if
it's hidden broadcast. Only Apple refuses to abide by that convention.