Re: Do USA bookstores look like this nowadays?

On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 01:08:28 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    I think I had JIANS too ... it went into the trash when I retired
>    because by then I realized I'd never use Java.

We had one application that used Java and I tried to stay well away from 
it. In its defense it started life as an applet that could be easily 
installed in remote sheriff substations to give them an overview of what 
was happening. Then it grew and browsers stopped running applets.

Microsoft's Visual J++ wasn't all that bad but a suit by Sun shut it down. 
C# has a lot of J++ DNA.

My first attempt with Java was a simple AVR simulator. If you expect to 
bang bits don't use Java. Then it kept grow and getting slower and slower. 
The answer on Java forums was 'you need a faster machine.' I haven't used 
it in a long time but Eclipse was slower than shit. NetBeans was worse. 

Moving from Java in the Arduino v1 IDE to Electron/Javascript in v2 was an 
improvement.