Re: Do USA bookstores look like this nowadays?

On 6/24/26 01:52, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 01:08:28 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     I think I had JIANS too ... it went into the trash when I retired
>>     because by then I realized I'd never use Java.
> 
> We had one application that used Java and I tried to stay well away from
> it. In its defense it started life as an applet that could be easily
> installed in remote sheriff substations to give them an overview of what
> was happening. Then it grew and browsers stopped running applets.
> 
> Microsoft's Visual J++ wasn't all that bad but a suit by Sun shut it down.
> C# has a lot of J++ DNA.
> 
> My first attempt with Java was a simple AVR simulator. If you expect to
> bang bits don't use Java. Then it kept grow and getting slower and slower.
> The answer on Java forums was 'you need a faster machine.' I haven't used
> it in a long time but Eclipse was slower than shit. NetBeans was worse.
> 
> Moving from Java in the Arduino v1 IDE to Electron/Javascript in v2 was an
> improvement.

   Java was sort of a Good Idea - within a certain
   time context. However it quickly became much
   easier to create or port to REAL compilers across
   many kinds of systems.

   Interpreted ? Python now has that across pretty
   much everything from Ards on up and it's easier
   to use.