Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

On Jun 26, 2026 at 2:26:47 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<[email protected]>:

> On 25/06/2026 19:39, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Jun 24, 2026 at 3:00:37 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
>> <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> On 24/06/2026 02:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On Jun 23, 2026 at 1:53:50 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/06/2026 19:22, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2026 at 2:34:21 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23/06/2026 08:09, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>> I know I have done a lot of good in my life -- working at summer camps and as
>>>>>>>> a teacher and as a teen mentor and far more.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are you a paedophile? That's generally their profile.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The fact you tie those things with such filth speaks of who YOU are.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Hit a nerve did I?
>>>> 
>>>> No. I was stating a simple fact. You made an insane and unsupported
>>>> accusation...
>>> 
>>> Nop,. I made a very pertinent and well supported association
>> 
>> No. You are not. You are making a gross assumption based on your feelings.
>> 
>> And it has nothing to do with me. Not a damned thing.
>> 
>> You think of working with kids and jump to pedophilia. You. Not me.
>> 
>> So what does that say about YOU?
>> 
>>> Paedophiles are attracted to any job that gives them control over young
>>> children. Its established fact. The more they protest their do-goodery
>>> the more likely they are to be sticking their fingers up little girls
>>> cracks.
>> 
>> This does not mean those who work with kids are all suspects. YOU are the one
>> who made that jump. Not me.
>> 
> No, but it makes all the ones who self  proclaim to be doing good
> extremely so

YOU made the jump. The question is what does that say about YOU? You keep
dodging that.
>> So what does that say about YOU?
>> 
>>> 
>>> Look up Sir Jimmy Savile.
>>> 
>>> Your moralising do-goodery absolutely called out for that riposte.
>>> I have no idea whether I have 'done good' in this world or not.
>> 
>> You should work on that. I know I do things to help others. I know I work to
>> make things better.
> 
> Ah The absolute conviction of the ignorant.

Not ignorant. I know myself. I know I work to make things better for others.
Does not mean I never do things for myself, but I have a big focus on making
things better for others around me. Think globally, act locally. I take that
to heart.

> We lnew a girkl onec. Nice goirl. She was going out with a 55 year old man.
> 
> As she walked into a room with out him  for an even party I glanced up
> and in a rare moment of candours asked 'where's the geriatric, Judes?'
> 
> Needless to say the room went very quiet, and Judes rushed out. I felt
> terrible.
> A week later she came over and thanked me. "You made me realise what I
> was doing to myself" she said.
> 
> Yoiu make know when you are 'doing good' I simply do not know at all.

How old was this "girkl" you know "onec"? Not making fun of your types -- I
make them often myself -- just odd to have two in a row like that. But if she
was 18 that is weird. If she was closer to his age maybe not an issue.
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> How could I possibly tell? I am an atheist. No big G tells me what is
>>> right and what is wrong.
>> 
>> I am an atheist. That is not relevant.
>> 
> Then by definition you have no arbitrary external moral standards to
> judge whether you are 'doing good' or not.

I do not need or want one. And even those who THINK they do interpret their
religious texts VERY differently. They are, in the end, still determine for
themselves their own morality.
> 
> 
>>> I haven[t the effrontery and sheer bald faced over inflated self esteem
>>> to claim that I have,  and my experience is that most people who make a
>>> big thing out of it are trying to hide something else.
>> 
>> I am not making a big thing out of it. It is just a fact.
> 
> LOL!"!
> Don't talk 'facts' to a philosopher.
> Very slippery things 'facts'. Especially those based on value judgements
> of a moral sort.
> 
> Perhaps your real problem is less that you are a suppressed paedophile,
> than that you Believe in the Truth Of Moral Compasses.

Again, this speaks of YOU -- this bizarre jump. So what do you think it says
of YOU?

You are good at trying to shine the light on others with bizarre leaps -- but
not so good at shining the light on yourself even when you show so much.
> 
> 
>>  I seek to make
>> things better. Might be from my Jewish upbringing where we are taught Tikkun
>> olam, healing the world. I take that to heart.
> 
> Sure. Sounds great. Kum By ya and all that.  Doesn't actually mean fuck
> all, but it sounds good

Equal rights and evidence and making things better for those around you might
not be important to you. OK. But they are to me.

> 
>>> 
>>>>> one which came from YOUR way of thinking. It had nothing to do
>>>> with me. You were sharing something about yourself.
>>>> 
>>> You would say that, wouldn't you?
>> 
>> I am stating a fact. What does YOUR jump say about YOU?
>> 
> No, you are not stating a 'fact'

I am.
> 
> You are making a value judgment about yourself - which no one is in fact
> qualified to do - and claiming it as fact.

I am completely qualified to do so. Again, you are just making things up about
me. And then refusing to say what you think that means about YOU.

Which suggests you have ideas of what it does mean about you but you are not
willing to face that.

> Why you would want to do that is an interesting psychological point. It
> shows more about how you want to be seen by others, than how you want to
> be in yourself.

If I cared deeply about how I was seen by others I would have left Usenet LONG
ago. Damn... the trolls in these waters get brutal when they are insecure.
LOL!

> And at that point I refer you back to Sir James Savile. knighted for his
> services to children's charities, and posthumously shown to be one of
> the most prolific paedophiles this country has ever seen.

Irrelevant to who and what I am. And you are looking at individual cases and
making an assumption about an individual. Your logic is faulty. So what does
this error say about YOU?
> 
> Or that nice mister Rolf Harris. Every kids favourite knee. But
> subsequently shown to be dangerous around small children

Again: what does this say about YOU to even think in such ways about someone
you have no evidence against?

You refuse to look at that. Shows you are not happy with yourself.
> 
> There are people who in true humility go around doing what they think
> its right. Like the apocryphal story which only emerged decades later
> than when John Lennon's ex wife was strapped for cash and had to sell
> all his memorabilia, Paul McCartney bought them back and returned them
> to her.
> 
> There are people who wan to tell you who they are. And people who let
> you find out.
> 
> In general the first want you to believe something you would not
> otherwise believe.

What are you saying about YOURSELF. You keep dodging that question.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.