Re: Early-2014 Macbook Air and Linux Mint Cinnamon

On 2026-06-26 18:03:34 +0000, rbowman said:
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 09:09:00 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote:
>> On 2026-06-26, vallor wrote:
>>> At Thu, 25 Jun 2026 23:22:35 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:32:08 +0200, John Bokma wrote:
>>>>> On 25/06/2026 03:14, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 17:15:58 +0200, John Bokma wrote:
>>>>>>> On 24/06/2026 03:24, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yeah, Linux is a proper Unix-type system, unlike that whatever it
>>>>>>>> is that Apple runs on its machines.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In what way?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One obvious one: a core part of the Unix tradition was separation
>>>>>> of the GUI from the OS kernel. Apple threw that one right out the
>>>>>> window.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How?
>>>> 
>>>> By integrating its GUI tightly into its OS kernel.
>>> 
>>> This has already been explained to you.
>>> 
>>> The OS kernel on a Mac is  Darwin:
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)
>>> 
>>> https://www.puredarwin.org/
>>> 
>>> ...but you're some kind of concern/Poe troll that is completely
>>> intractable regarding MacOS.
>>> 
>>> And while you are fond of using the term *nix, there's nothing wrong
>>> with saying "Unix" or "a Unix" to describe POSIX operating systems like
>>> Linux or FreeBSD -- because those are not trademarks.
>>> (Another term of art is "Unix-like".)
>>> 
>>> https://www.fosslinux.com/44623/top-unix-based-operating-systems.htm
>>> 
>>> UNIX(r), though, is a trademark.  All-caps, with an (r) to make sure
>>> you know those people Really Mean Business (oh yes).
>>> 
>>> Now go forth and sin no more.
>> 
>> But to go Forth, it probably helps to have an Apple PowerPC machine :-P
> 
> Gforth works fine on Linux x64 distros. Well, as fine as Forth ever
> worked.

Gforth also works on MacOS X (Intel and Apple Silicon), as do a lot of 
other Forth options, so you can use a real operating system to create 
apps using an ancient programming language.  :-p