Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

On 27/06/2026 07:45, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:56:59 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
> <[email protected]>:
> 
>> On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
>>>> offenders,.
>>> Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.
>>
>> You don't really need peer review -
> 
> You are going with feelings. OK.
> 
Mo. You are

>> that bastion of the Lefts Bandar Logic:
>> "We all say it, so it must be true"  - to spot a truism.
> 
> You are avoiding the question and making things up about others.
> 
No, you are

>> By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.
> 
> And no innocent person would ever have a first offense if we killed them
> all... but that is idiotic reasoning.
I nrver claimed otherwise. Byt reasoning it is and logical it is.
There was a cult film, in the UK made called 'Jubilee'. It features a 
punk future in which all crime had been abolished by the simple 
expedient of repealing all laws.

Again perfectly logical. And factual. Crimes is caused by people 
breaking laws. Remove the laws and there is no crime


>>
>> I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come across.
>> Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.
> 
> I back evidence and equal rights. You lash out.

You don't back evidence. You just believe what you are told. There is no 
such thing as 'equal rights' s and 'woke' absolutely abhors the principle.

Where are the white lawyers associations? the white lives matter group? 
And so on.
Critical race theory is pure bigotry and racism.

>>
>> Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.
> 
> You did not back the idea that hanging first time offenders is a better
> method. Nor will you. That is clear.
> 
I am not at this point into backing anything as a 'good' or 'better' 
method as those terms require in the first instance a yard stick to 
measure 'good' by that I do not claim to possess and the the second a 
scale of comparison with no clear identification as to what is in fact 
being made 'better' compared with what?

You talk pure Libtard advertising speak.

"Persil washes whiter". (Than what? distilled engine oil?)
"Nothing works faster than Aspirin" (So why not use nothing, instead)
"Drink Brawndo: it's got electrolytes"

Let me collect the full text of the Bandar Log. whom you so closely 
resemble.

"A great roofless palace crowned the hill, and the marble of the 
courtyards and the fountains was split, and stained with red and green, 
and the very cobblestones in the courtyard where the king’s elephants 
used to live had been thrust up and apart by grasses and young trees. 
 From the palace you could see the rows and rows of roofless houses that 
made up the city looking like empty honeycombs filled with blackness; 
the shapeless block of stone that had been an idol in the square where 
four roads met; the pits and dimples at street corners where the public 
wells once stood, and the shattered domes of temples with wild figs 
sprouting on their sides. The monkeys called the place their city, and 
pretended to despise the Jungle-People because they lived in the forest. 
And yet they never knew what the buildings were made for nor how to use 
them. They would sit in circles on the hall of the king’s council 
chamber, and scratch for fleas and pretend to be men; or they would run 
in and out of the roofless houses and collect pieces of plaster and old 
bricks in a corner, and forget where they had hidden them, and fight and 
cry in scuffling crowds, and then break off to play up and down the 
terraces of the king’s garden, where they would shake the rose trees and 
the oranges in sport to see the fruit and flowers fall. They explored 
all the passages and dark tunnels in the palace and the hundreds of 
little dark rooms, but they never remembered what they had seen and what 
they had not; and so drifted about in ones and twos or crowds telling 
each other that they were doing as men did. They drank at the tanks and 
made the water all muddy, and then they fought over it, and then they 
would all rush together in mobs and shout: “There is no one in the 
jungle so wise and good and clever and strong and gentle as the 
Bandar-log.” Then all would begin again till they grew tired of the city 
and went back to the tree-tops, hoping the Jungle-People would notice 
them."...

In this passage we see the basic essence of the Bandar Log. The pretend 
to live in a city they didn't build, which they have no real knowledge 
of,. Just as Liberals today live in a technological  society that they 
have no knowledge of, and didnt build.

And like the Bandar Log, they cover their ignorance my making a huge 
noise, chattering and praising each other, and saying how wonderful they 
are and throwing dung at anyone who dioesn't live in the trees like they do.

..."Sore, sleepy, and hungry as he was, Mowgli could not help laughing 
when the Bandar-log began, twenty at a time, to tell him how great and 
wise and strong and gentle they were, and how foolish he was to wish to 
leave them. “We are great. We are free. We are wonderful. We are the 
most wonderful people in all the jungle! We all say so, and so it must 
be true," they shouted. “Now as you are a new listener and can carry our 
words back to the Jungle-People so that they may notice us in future, we 
will tell you all about our most excellent selves." Mowgli made no 
objection, and the monkeys gathered by hundreds and hundreds on the 
terrace to listen to their own speakers singing the praises of the 
Bandar-log, and whenever a speaker stopped for want of breath they would 
all shout together: “This is true; we all say so.” Mowgli nodded and 
blinked, and said “Yes” when they asked him a question, and his head 
spun with the noise. “Tabaqui the Jackal must have bitten all these 
people,” he said to himself, “and now they have madness. Certainly this 
is dewanee, the madness. Do they never go to sleep? Now there is a cloud 
coming to cover that moon. If it were only a big enough cloud I might 
try to run away in the darkness. But I am tired.”

Her we see the true essence of the Bandar Log. They are not really 
interested in facts, or reality, or anything. They are only interested 
in self importance. So they tell themselves how fantastic they are and 
then assume that because they all are saying the same thing, it must be 
true. This is called 'peer review' in today's most modernism.
Underlying it is the metaphysiocs of the narcissist. "The  truth is a 
social construct". That is, they *believe* that the only real thing is 
what people think or can be persuaded to think, is real.

Hence the slogans. 'Black lives matter!' 'Climate Denier'! 'fascist' 
'racist' ''capitalist' 'Planet friendly' 'saving the planet' 'saving the 
children' (from exactly what is never, of course specified).

Facts are not, as Wittgenstein remarked 'whatever is the case' - No., 
Facts are *what  everyone agrees they are* using a scientific practice - 
peer review - for something it was never intended.

it doesn't matter what 98% of scientists think it it is in fact wrong.

But the woke Left have no concept of objective reality. Reality is what 
they say it is, and that's that.

Discovered not by experiment, but by opinion poll marketing survey and 
peer review.



> As I said, I prefer evidence. Here is some:
> 
> * Longer prison sentences have little consistent effect on lowering future
> crime:
>    https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/does-imprisonment-deter-crime
> 
> * Programs that change behavior (CBT, drug treatment, job training) do reduce
> recidivism:
>    https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf
> 
> * Countries with more rehabilitative prison systems tend to show lower
> recidivism
>    An example: https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/norway
> 

Yawn. The point about longer prison sentences, as we see daily, is that 
murderers and rapists don't get released onto the general public. Prison 
isn't there to 'cure' people. Its there to remove people from society.

The logical extension of (your?) argument is that people shouldn't be 
sent to prison at all.
Then There wont be any recidivism.

Once again is all about ideas, not about the reality of running a 
coherent society.


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