Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

On Jun 27, 2026 at 1:32:26 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<[email protected]>:

> On 27/06/2026 07:45, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:56:59 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
>> <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
>>>>> offenders,.
>>>> Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.
>>> 
>>> You don't really need peer review -
>> 
>> You are going with feelings. OK.
>> 
> Mo. You are

You do something. I note it. You deny and project. That is boring.
> 
>>> that bastion of the Lefts Bandar Logic:
>>> "We all say it, so it must be true"  - to spot a truism.
>> 
>> You are avoiding the question and making things up about others.
>> 
> No, you are

You did it again.
> 
>>> By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.
>> 
>> And no innocent person would ever have a first offense if we killed them
>> all... but that is idiotic reasoning.
> I nrver claimed otherwise. Byt reasoning it is and logical it is.
> There was a cult film, in the UK made called 'Jubilee'. It features a
> punk future in which all crime had been abolished by the simple
> expedient of repealing all laws.
> 
> Again perfectly logical. And factual. Crimes is caused by people
> breaking laws. Remove the laws and there is no crime

You are missing the point. I am not focused on laws -- but on how to improve
equal rights. I back evidence based policies to do that.
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come across.
>>> Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.
>> 
>> I back evidence and equal rights. You lash out.
> 
> You don't back evidence. You just believe what you are told. There is no
> such thing as 'equal rights' s and 'woke' absolutely abhors the principle.
> 
> Where are the white lawyers associations? the white lives matter group?
> And so on.
> Critical race theory is pure bigotry and racism.

Note how you just babble rage bate. Not very exciting.
> 
>>> 
>>> Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.
>> 
>> You did not back the idea that hanging first time offenders is a better
>> method. Nor will you. That is clear.
>> 
> I am not at this point into backing anything as a 'good' or 'better'
> method as those terms require in the first instance a yard stick to
> measure 'good' by that I do not claim to possess and the the second a
> scale of comparison with no clear identification as to what is in fact
> being made 'better' compared with what?

Your goal seems just to try to get people engaged.

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> 
>> As I said, I prefer evidence. Here is some:
>> 
>> * Longer prison sentences have little consistent effect on lowering future
>> crime:
>>    https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/does-imprisonment-deter-crime
>> 
>> * Programs that change behavior (CBT, drug treatment, job training) do reduce
>> recidivism:
>>    https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf
>> 
>> * Countries with more rehabilitative prison systems tend to show lower
>> recidivism
>>    An example: https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/norway
>> 
> 
> Yawn. The point about longer prison sentences, as we see daily, is that
> murderers and rapists don't get released onto the general public. Prison
> isn't there to 'cure' people. It's there to remove people from society.

What is your overall goal? Your value?
> 
> The logical extension of (your?) argument is that people shouldn't be
> sent to prison at all.
> Then There wont be any recidivism.

That is not true. That would not be the best way to support equal rights and
this is not tied to my views.
> 
> Once again is all about ideas, not about the reality of running a
> coherent society.

You are just looking to engage -- not to be reasoned or logical.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.