Re: """Standard""" software

On 2026-06-29 07:53, c186282 wrote:
> On 6/28/26 06:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-06-28 09:02, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>> On 2026-06-27, Your Name wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2026-06-26 08:37:41 +0000, Nuno Silva said:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:34:01 +1200, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2026-06-25 05:55:22 +0000, Nuno Silva said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And who declared Microsoft products "standard software"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Most of the business world did years ago ...
>>> [...]
>>>>> I think relativism from your part would improve matters too. It's
>>>>> not even a de facto standard the way you stated it,
>>>>
>>>> The majority of businesses in the world use Microsloth Windoze (about
>>>> 60%-66%*) and Microsloth Ofiice (about 82% in 2017*)... they *are*
>>>> basically the standard and have been for decades now. It may be slowly
>>>> beginning to change.
>>>>
>>>> * That figure is for those using the lastest versions Windowze 10 
>>>> and 11,
>>>>   so doesn't include all those still using older versions.
>>>>
>>>> * A very quick search doesn't turn up more up-to-date figures for 
>>>> Microsloth
>>>>   Office, only for the online Office 365 version, which doesn't include
>>>>   offline users. In terms of just online office apps, Google 
>>>> currently has
>>>>   the most users.
>>>
>>> And Google Docs isn't exactly that good. I kept hitting "why doesn't it
>>> have $BASIC_FEATURE_OOo_HAD_FOR_YEARS_BEFORE?", and the version control
>>> being automatic is a bit too useless. For people who don't want to
>>> bother with it? Maybe it's ok. But if I'm aware of it, I may want to
>>> group the changes under a descriptive label, and make separate labels
>>> for separate sets of changes.
>>
>> I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track 
>> how much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
> 
>    The office gals used to write, then re-write, our
>    entire budget/payroll/expense system as spreadsheets
>    until quite recently. A dozen+ heavily-linked pages
>    at minimum.
> 
>    They were trying to implement an expensive all-in-one
>    miracle office/biz system about the time I retired.
>    Best I could tell it didn't really have the nuance to
>    cope with anyone's Real World reliably. Stuff like
>    QuickBooks can SORT of do it ... but something is
>    ALWAYS different than the designers Vision.
> 
>> Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem, 
>> maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version. 
>> Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could 
>> open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two 
>> lines are lost.
> 
>    Complex sheets are notoriously difficult to diagnose/fix
>    when problems appear. Everything is linked to everything.

It is not complex at all, by computer standards. Just four hundred lines 
and 15 columns, a table.

And it just failed again. At least this time I kept the paper.

I need another product for the phone.



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Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
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