Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally?? admitting where developers want to be
Robert Heller <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
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| Organization | Deepwoods Software |
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At Sun, 5 Jul 2026 15:12:44 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 2026-07-05 14:41, Robert Heller wrote: > > At Sun, 5 Jul 2026 13:35:57 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> On 2026-07-05 02:02, Lawrence DâÃâ¬Ãâ¢Oliveiro wrote: > >>> On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 18:41:39 -0000 (UTC), Robert Heller wrote: > >>> > >>>>> <https://www.xda-developers.com/wsl-keeps-getting-better-and-its-because-microsoft-is-finally-admitting-where-developers-want-to-be/> > >>>>> > >>>> It is also *probably* too little too late. > >>> > >>> Quote: > >>> > >>> ... Microsoft really does need to make its OS comfortable for > >>> Linux developers to work in, because the alternative involves > >>> people ditching Windows entirely. For Microsoft to maintain its > >>> user base, it has to ensure that its operating system can do > >>> everything better than its competitors, and if that includes > >>> allowing people to code Linux apps instead of using its own tools, > >>> then that's what it needs to do. > >>> > >>> But if what its operating system is supposedly "doing better than > >>> competitors" is "running a Linux stack", then pretty much by > >>> definition, native Linux itself will always do that better than any > >>> Windows-with-Linux-bag-hanging-off-the-side two-headed FrankenOS can > >>> manage. > >> > >> Unless the user needs one of those applications that only exist for > >> Windows. For instance, some tax software for the USA. > > > > Wondering if Microsoft is looking to do what Apple did with MacOSX -- move > > from their own propriatory kernel to an open source kernel (and base O/S > > infrastructure) with a propriatory GUI layer on top... > > > > The only "weirdness" (to me) about the WSL is why? Is microsoft trying to > > entice Linux user (partitularly developers) away from Linux? The WSL is not > > going to appeal to the "typical" MS-Windows user (or if the "typical" > > MS-Windows user starts using the WSL, they might decide to just install Linux > > and move on. Developers already on Linux are not going to install MS-Windows > > just to use WSL. And no, doing that just to build MS-Windows versions of Linux > > programs is not really a reason -- there exist tools to cross-build on Linux > > targeting MS-Windows. > > Can they build applications that run on the WSL transparently? Just > click an icon on the desktop or a menu entry, and it fires away? Those > same applications could also run on Linux proper. It depends on the program load infrastructure. Eg is WSL on MS-Windows like WINE on Linux? (Does WSL provide a system call wrapper library?) Does the build tools under WSL produce Linux ELF binaries or native MS-Windows binaries (which is what the mingwin toolchain running under linux produces). It would of course be true that the WSL application *source code* would also build on a Linux machine and then run under Linux, Note: almost any non-GUI Linux utility will compile and run under MacOS, depending on the level of its dependency on specific O/S features and libraries. Actually any classic C program that just uses the base STDIO library will compile on Linux, MacOSX, and even MS-Windows (without any need for WSL). The produced *binaries* are of cource not "portable". > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services [email protected] -- Webhosting Services