Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread

On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 21:47:08 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

> But it's not only GTK+ and Qt but also the plethora of other other
> graphical toolkits, such as Xforms, Fltk, Motif, Tk, etc., that will
> suffer with the enforced demise of X11.

I spent part of the last 25 years working with Motif. Even the legacy GUIs 
on Windows used Motif with the NutCracker runtime and PTC X server. With 
that much history the Motif code was completely entwined with XLib and Xt. 
You're correct that the Gtk and Qt APIs sheltered you from getting down 
and dirty with X11. The frontend replacement for the legacy GUIs was web 
based Angular. No way could Motif be salvaged. What we did with placement, 
app-defaults, IPC using XAtoms and so forth was exactly what the Wayland 
people consider evil.