Re: Pot metal - was something else

The Natural Philosopher <[email protected]>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Organization A little, after lunch
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 09/08/2026 14:06, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-09 14:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 09/08/2026 01:47, c186282 wrote:
>>>   The alloy does not seem very resistant to vibration.
>>>    It's soft enough you'd THINK it would be, but its not.
>>>
>> The problem is mainly that its has no fixed composition, Its random 
>> non ferrous scarp mainly. Use a magnet to get the iron and steel and 
>> melt what is left over perhaps
>>
>>
>>>    Most aluminum alloys and 300 series stainless are
>>>    not super-good with vibrations either - though
>>>    better than 'pot metal'. I've seen 'magnesium' tire
>>>    rims crack too.
>>>
>> Pot metal is heavy and brittle in my experience.
>>
>> Came across it back in the day in toys, carburettor castings, 
>> thermostat housings..valve covers..all stuff that needed shape 
>> retention but no great strength
>>
>>>    Only steel - esp nearly pure iron - seems to stand
>>>    up to vibration, but it's HEAVY. Some cast iron,
>>>    like that previously used for engine blocks, can
>>>    be pretty good but will fracture on a sharp impact.
>>>    I've seen old cracked engine blocks too.
>>>
>> Cast iron is brittle.That's why they used to use wrought iron - but it 
>> was expensive.
>> Then making steel got super cheap and that was that. Whole generation 
>> learned to treat and alloy steel to get almost whatever you want
>>
>>>    Plastics - they start 'crystalizing'/decomposing
>>>    the instant they're made.
>>
>> Not all of them. Like steel, there is a huge range. There's many a 
>> radio case made of 'Bakelite' or stuff skinned with 'Formica'  or 
>> floored with 'linoleum'....still functioning
>>
>> Epoxy and glass fibre PCBs dating from the 1970s are still OK, as are 
>> phenolic resin items
>>
>> PVC however is very short lived, In the sun
> 
> PVC is used here for window frames and blinds. I had a place with such, 
> 40 year old, and good. Yellowish, though. And more brittle.
> 
That's UPVC - treaqted to reduce the effect, but not eliminate it

>>
>> Nylon is intermediate - UV ageing often gets it
>>
>> Jury is still out on polycarbonate, ABS  and ASA.
>>
>> In fact one of the eco gripes about plastics is that they *don't* 
>> degrade.
> 
> They fragment into microplastics.
> 
>>
>> Nevertheless there are plastic gobbling bugs thriving at the bottom of 
>> the sea apparently, eating all those microplastics.
>>
>> Beware the SweepingStatement...
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

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