Re: WiFi range ...

On 09/08/2026 19:03, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 13:55:00 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> Huge swathes of Britain  and W Europe are very lush to the point of
>> being not that suitable for cereal crops. Grazing cattle on them works.
>> And that leads to a surplus of milk, so what else but make butter and
>> cheese?
> 
> Slop the hogs? While New York State residents get their hackles up if
> referred to as 'New England' agriculture where I grew up was primarily
> dairy and apples. You grow what you can. There are quite a few dairy farms
> in this area too.
> 
> Jared Diamond's 'Collapse' focuses in part on western Montana. You can
> grow much besides hay and even that ability is fragile according to him.
> Of course, he also theorizes the Norse left Greenland after the climate
> deteriorated because they wouldn't eat fish. The American Anthropological
> Society produced 'Questioning Collapse', a selection of essays pointing
> out the errors in Diamond's 'science'.
I never regarded Jared as science, Interestring ideas though.]

If you want to read about societal collpase thenread Tainter's 'collapse 
of complex civilisations'

The terrifying point that he makes is that we are in fact in the middle 
of a collapse right now...

-- 
The higher up the mountainside
The greener grows the grass.
The higher up the monkey climbs
The more he shows his arse.

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