Re: CLASS in Europe and America
c186282 <[email protected]>
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On 8/9/26 10:10, Lars Poulsen wrote: > On 2026-08-08 17:54, c186282 wrote: >> On 8/8/26 03:03, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> On 2026-08-08, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The USA/west DO have serious enemies - and they're >>>> tech-savvy. Bear that in mind. >>> >>> Some of them are in the USA itself. Can you say "tech oligarchs"? >>> >>> Unless you define "USA" as the oligarchs themselves, of course. >> >> Nah, USA isn't that 'simple' - and too volatile. >> The rich become poor and the poor become rich >> too easily, too often, in the USA to sustain >> a traditional oligarchy. It's easier in Europe >> with its more rigid/established classes. > > As an immigrant from Europe (Denmark) I see much more class entrenchment > in the USA than in the parts of Europe that I am intimately familar > with. Americans TELL themselves (or each other) that they have high > social mobility, but it is FAR easier to start a new business in most of > Europe. Universal health care is one huge reason. The UK is still probably THE worst in the vicinity about 'class'. You're either "born to" whatever or you'll get squeezed out, never be seen as a real "peer". It MAY be easier to start a biz in the EU. Never looked into the details. However I do keep seeing news from the EU about smaller biz collapsing under huge tax and regulatory burdens. So "start", maybe easier, "keep", not so much. And you don't have to own a biz to "get ahead". Just don't spend every coin you earn as fast as you earn it. Persistence in a large biz tends to pay off as well - alas Gen-Z/A2 don't seem to GRASP that. If they're not CEO in six months they jump ship and start over, and over, and over ... Anyway, USA is about "opportunity" - IF you can spot it. The original "old money" crowd is pretty weak and thus things change fast. "Old money" - grandpa MAKES it, the kids SURF on it and the grand-kids BLOW it all. That's the normal cycle in USA.