Re: OT

On 8/17/2026 4:20 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/8/17 20:16:48, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>> On 8/17/2026 2:59 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>>> The price I paid for Win11 Pro is for a license to use it, the
>>>> price I paid for 365 is for a year of MS letting me use what
>>>> I want from their apps and OneDrive, it's a equitable way of
>>>> always having the latest software.  Buying a boxed copy of
>>>> MS Office, OTOH, would lock me in to one arbitrary release.
> 
> Depends whether you _want_ what the later releases give you. Granted, I
> haven't really _looked_ into what the later ones give me, but I've yet
> to find anything I want to do that my Office 2003 (with the patches for
> the x versions so I can exchange with those who use them) can't do. (And
> I certainly have no desire for OneDrive.) Each to his or her own, though!


Office 2003?  Under what OS, exactly?  I mean, that's kind of like still 
using a DVD player, instead of a modern video entertainment device.


>>>> What do you do if you need a computer when you're driving?
>>>> Do you even realize that you can get a map app on the smartphone?
>>>
>>> Most of my driving is in areas I've driven for 60 years.
>>> If I need to find details of one of the few areas I'm not
>>> familiar with, I have a map book in the car (and road maps
>>> for longer trips).  Or I can look it up on my computer
>>> before I leave home.  (That's called planning, doncha know.)
>>
> Plus, a lot of map "apps" - like a lot of other apps - are actually only
> a gateway to an online database, i. e. won't work where there's no
> signal. (OK, if you know you're going to use them in advance, you can in
> many "apps" pre-download the maps for the areas you're going to be in.)>


That's true, a paper map where cell service is inadequate is still useful.


>> I mean, yeah, planning is great, but when you are in a random unknown
>> place and need to get oriented quickly, a smartphone is the solution, I
>> have seen it in practice and benefited from it.
>>
> A dedicated SatNav (US name GPS) will work too. Where the _online_ ones
> come into their own - and fine if you have a permanently-on data
> contract you're using for other things anyway (and have signal) - is
> where there are roadworks, traffic conditions, and so on.


I tend to think that having up-to-the-moment instructions for driving is 
usually indicated.  The smartphone sold me on itself pretty quick after 
I got one.  I had been reluctant to adopt the technology, myself, but 
found myself separated from my computer for an extended period and the 
phone gave me Internet on an alternative device.  I soon realized having 
both is ideal.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

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