Re: OT

On 19/08/2026 19:30, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver <[email protected]> wrote:
>> (Should we take this to e-s.talk?)
> 
>    And pollute *that* group!? :-)
> 
>> On 2026/8/17 20:16:48, Joel W. Crump wrote:
> [...]
>>>>> The price I paid for Win11 Pro is for a license to use it, the
>>>>> price I paid for 365 is for a year of MS letting me use what
>>>>> I want from their apps and OneDrive, it's a equitable way of
>>>>> always having the latest software.  Buying a boxed copy of
>>>>> MS Office, OTOH, would lock me in to one arbitrary release.
>>
>> Depends whether you _want_ what the later releases give you. Granted, I
>> haven't really _looked_ into what the later ones give me, but I've yet
>> to find anything I want to do that my Office 2003 (with the patches for
>> the x versions so I can exchange with those who use them) can't do. (And
>> I certainly have no desire for OneDrive.) Each to his or her own, though!
> 
>    Exactly! My software ages quite nicely with time. Some important parts
> are already well over two decades 'old' and still going strong. Example:
> The software bringing you this post.
> 
>>>> Given that software has started deteriorating with each successive
>>>> release, constant upgrades are looking less and less attractive.
>>
>> That certainly is the impression I get. Plus needing constant
>> replacement of OS in order to use them - OK, "constant" is overstating,
>> but they only support so far back in OSs.
> 
>    The software I mention above started on XP and moved to Vista, 8.1 and
> now 11 without a hitch.
> 
>    And to stay on topic, the most important part, this newsreader, could
> run on all the OSs in the Newsgroups:' header! :-)
> 
> [...]
> 
>>>>> What do you do if you need a computer when you're driving?
>>>>> Do you even realize that you can get a map app on the smartphone?
>>>>
>>>> Most of my driving is in areas I've driven for 60 years.
>>>> If I need to find details of one of the few areas I'm not
>>>> familiar with, I have a map book in the car (and road maps
>>>> for longer trips).  Or I can look it up on my computer
>>>> before I leave home.  (That's called planning, doncha know.)
>>>
>> Plus, a lot of map "apps" - like a lot of other apps - are actually only
>> a gateway to an online database, i. e. won't work where there's no
>> signal. (OK, if you know you're going to use them in advance, you can in
>> many "apps" pre-download the maps for the areas you're going to be in.)>
> 
>    There are quite a lot of navigation apps which use offline maps and
> hence do not need a 'signal' (mobile data connection). I used them in
> Australia's rural/Outback/remote areas where there often just *is* no
> signal (except very expensive satellite Internet). A smartphone can
> easily hold the offline maps for whole countries (like the UK, AU, etc.)
> and more. One of these days, I'll add the NZ maps! :-)
> 
+1. I use Tomtom GO  and if I had a bigger phone Id keep more maps
It does not AFAICT use Internet connectivity to get its latest reports 
on speed cameras and traffic jams, but get them somehow it does.


> [...]

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