Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!!

On 8/21/26 00:24, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 22:30:33 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
> 
>>     32-bit versions of anything are RARE now alas ...
> 
> We had a few gotchas. The Esri C++ API was 32 bit up until their version
> 11 a few years ago. The necessary operations were in a dll wrapped in
> 'extern C' so they could be called from the legacy C code.  While it's
> theorectically possible to call a 32 bit dll from 64 bit code it ain't
> pretty.
> 
> We used Motif so another sticking point was some of the support libraries.
> The biggest problem was the Mrm (Motif Resource Manager) library.
> 
> https://www.oreilly.com/openbook/motif/vol6a/Vol6a_html/ch22.html
> 
> We used it extensively since UIL allowed us to customize the GUIs for each
> site. For a while you could jump thorough the hoops and get the libs and
> pass the compiler flags on 64 bit Ubuntu but with one release that stopped
> being feasible.
> 
> Physical 32-bit machines were long gone but some applications got locked
> in for one reason or the other.
> 
>>     I think XFCE is a bit *excessive* - pref LXDE instead.
> 
> The Xfce on the 32-bit Debian seemed quite bareboned. I was surprised by
> the default Xfce on MX. Much nicer.
> 
> 
>>     However LXDE distros/installs are becoming more and more difficult to
>>     find promptly - and LXQt sucks.
> 
> Considering that the LXDE developers mostly jumped to LXQt I'm not
> surprised. I had a moment of senior confusing when the library project
> started looking at Mint. LMDE? WTF? You're kidding. Oh, wait a minute...
> 
>>     Spent a LONG time using SUSE/OpenSUSE for my servers and personal
>>     boxes ... but eventually it got a bit too weird and 'fat' and I moved
>>     to Deb. *I* like it better. YOU may pref something else. As said
>>     there's no really "best" distro branch, just "best"
>>     for YOU.
> 
> So far Leap 16 is working out okay but it's the KDE/Plasm version which is
> a lot like the Fedora KDE/Plasma version which looks like EndeavourOS KDE/
> Plasma, and I presume Debian KDE/Plasma.
> 
> I do have to find PackageKit on Leap and drive a stake through its useless
> little heart. The Fedora box has Discover too but when I run 'sudo dnf
> update' it doesn't bitch about PackageKit being busy.  zypper does.

   XFCE is "acceptable" to me. Still PREF the LXDE
   perspective though. CAN add it in some distos
   however.

   Sorry, but kinda "minimalist" suits my psych,

   JUST enough GUI.

   Seems LXDE is kinda dying. There's LXQt but it
   isn't nearly as good - TOO many oddities. By
   now the experiences teaches that LXQt will
   NEVER be as good.

   So, all in all, STILL pref LXDE.

   Anyway, as said, JUST Enough GUI is MY
   preferred environment. No "eye candy"
   or "app environment" or anything more.

   Win2K is still a pattern for What
   I Like for a GUI. Dead practical.