Re: CCTV use with PCs

Dorene Cornwell <[email protected]> Tue, 13 May 2008 14:19:35 EDT
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This might be some sort of naive questions, and I have not read the vendor  
info yet, but I am going to ask anyway:
 
--I assume in some cases one would want to save a screen shot, but in other  
cases one would want to save everything on the projection field, not just  
everything that shows up on the screen. What options, scanner or CCTV make this  
easiest?
 
--I would sort of expect that a CCTV screen capture would save images  at 
sufficient resolution to allow the files to be run through OCR software, but  it 
would occur to me to check. 
 
--I know for some documents such as manuscripts or drawing, saving the  image 
will have to be sufficient, but why would one choose a CCTV over a scanner  
that also has the ability to do OCR so print content could be read by a screen  
reader or other text processing?
 
--Are there issues about the format of the things to be read or some reason  
that a CCTV might offer less damaging exposure to light than a scanner?
 
Anyway I would be very curious to know what solution is decided on.
 
Best regards.
 
DoreneC
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/13/2008 11:07:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Hi  Janice:

Thank you for suggesting the Zoom-Ex.  I've left a voice  mail for
Heater.  We have the Zoom-Ex here at the Lighthouse so I've  invited her
to come and see it in action.

Ray Campbell, Help Desk  Technician
Adaptive Technology Center
Chicago Lighthouse for People Who  Are Blind or Visually Impaired
1850 W. Roosevelt Road
Chicago, IL   60608
312-997-3651 (Voice/Relay) or
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] CCTV use with  PCs

Hello Heather,

Take a look at Zoom Ex.  Go  to
http://www.abisee.com/html/zoomex_products_zoom_ex2.htm.  If you  have
questions, you can call the manufacturer and ask them.

Janice  Knuth

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Library

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Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 12:50 PM
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Subject: [VICUG-L] CCTV use with  PCs

Hello,

I am a librarian shopping around for CCTVs to provide  for researchers at
our library, and I could use some help. We are very  interested in
products that are PC compatible and would allow our users to  capture the
magnified image to a PC for saving, emailing, or printing. Ours  is a
research and rare books library, and since our books do not  circulate
out of the building, photocopying is a big part of how people  do
research. Screen capture from the CCTV would eliminate the  burdensome
extra steps of requesting photocopies or digital scans from our  books
and would be a real benefit to our readers.

I've seen reviews  of several laptop compatible models that specifically
mention screen  capture, but as of yet, I can't nail down if the mere
fact that a CCTV is  "PC compatible" means that screen capture to the PC
is a feature. The  laptop compatible models will not work for our
purposes at the library, but  a PC compatible model is an option I
believe I could argue for.

I'm  pleased with many optical and ergonomic features of the Optelec 
ClearView+  series, but haven't been able to ascertain if the PC
compatible model or  others like it can be used it the way I've
described.

Do any of you  have experience using PC compatible CCTVs, or understand 
the technology  well enough to offer me advice?
Is screen capture typically a feature, and  if so, does it require 
additional software?

On behalf of our  library community, I greatly appreciate any and all
advice!

Best  Regards,

Heather Smedberg
General Collections Librarian
Newberry  Library
Chicago, Illlinois 60610
312-255-3641


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