Re: Offensive language in Prolog code

>
> I think the prolog community should be more inventive in teaching it to
> people like me, regarding e.g. difference lists; there are thousands of
> examples about them on the web, all of them about "append". I do not feel
> comfortable implementing DCGs from scratch, albeit it is just about an
> operator and difference lists..
>
Markus Triska and Anne Ogborn wrote a nice introduction to the use of DCGs
in Prolog: http://www.pathwayslms.com/swipltuts/dcg/

>
> By the way, I do not know what "Pack" means (in your post-scriptums(a?));
> I especially did not understand PS2. But I understand your first
> post-scriptum a little bit more: I do not get evil so I serve its purpose.
>
These are the Prolog Packs: http://www.swi-prolog.org/pack/list
EVIL being one of them.

>
> Cheers,
> Dincer
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Wouter Beek <[email protected]>
> *To:* Dincer Uyav <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:54 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [SWIPL] Offensive language in Prolog code
>
> Hi Dincer,
>
> As I understand it, the EVIL package is a form of "esoteric programming".
> As with other examples of esoteric programming, parts of the EVIL codebase
> should be interpreted as satire on the normal use of Prolog or programming
> in general.  This means that the use of strong language should be assessed
> relative to this context. The comment that you quote is clearly a pun on
> the standard way of stating the license of a piece of code. It seems that
> you have missed this literary or 'aesthetic' context a bit. The use of
> strong language has historically been part of the genre (as it has been
> part of other genres of comedy as well), for instance
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck.
>
> I think that EVIL is a cunning piece of code that is probably best
> appreciated by people who are well-versed in Prolog. Its purpose will
> probably not be understood by your nephews, as they are starting to learn
> Prolog. One has to know the standard/default way of doing things in order
> to understand the twists and puns that EVIL consists of. By the time your
> nephews become better at writing Prolog code, they will probably start to
> like EVIL for the above stated reasons. Keep us posted by the time they do!
>
> PS1: Two anonymous posters on the Pack's site haven't understood this
> context either, judging by their lack of understanding that speaks from the
> comments they left (e.g., "Serious waste of time"). It's too bad that
> people leave comments without understanding the thing they are commenting
> on properly, although in this case the critique that EVIL is a waste of
> time is -- in a satirical sense -- exactly one of its purposes.
>
> PS2: The Pack's site says: "Failed to process pack" This probably points
> at an issue on the server-side?
>
> ---
> Cheers!,
> Wouter.
>
> E-mail: [email protected]
> WWW: www.wouterbeek.com
> Tel.: 0647674624
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Dincer Uyav <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> A certain michael richter published his (properly named) EVIL.PL<http://evil.pl/>with the following license:
>
> :- multifile license:license/3. license:license(wtfpl, lgpl,  [
> comment('Do What The Fuck You Want To Public License'),  url('
> http://www.wtfpl.net/txt/copying')]). :- license(wtfpl).
>
> Do we need such offensive language in Prolog code?
>
> I am currently trying to teach Prolog to my nephews and prefer not to show
> them this piece of P-code.
>
> I don't know what this guy was smoking at the time but I am deeply
> offended and expect SWI-Prolog not to host such illicit material; I am sure
> your membership agreement considers this as grounds for immediate
> termination.
>
> Dincer
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