Re: To develop a system fit for Web-heroes.

2013/12/5 Richard A. O'Keefe <[email protected]>

> What does it take to develop a programming system
> that is appropriate for the web-developing heroes
>

...
maybe an equational approach ?

LAMP # LP

I'm still on this one, glossing over each single metaphore symbol (L,A,etc).

LAMP has been (and is) a great 'metalanguage'.
In practical terms, it produced (and produces) things like (just some silly
example) Wikipedia, Facebook, Wordpress, Drupal... Social is key...

LP it's a dream, and SWI-Prolog shed some reality on it by means of its
efficient transformational library - i.e. HTML via DCG - spiced up
Attributed Grammars.
I like so much the functional generation expressed via \callable, it could
substitute - actually, it does - a great part of LAMP' machinery.

And still more I like the - theoric - possibility to use bidirectionally
those same Relations on DOM ( a little Babele doomed to rules! ).
Could also provide a viable analysis tool for content in the wild.

It's -almost- all in bi-directionality of DCGs. Without ever speaking of
RDF and Big Data...

In perspective, what about using constrained variables to model *true
world* user interfaces ?
A kind of reflexive server - a stateful machine a là SCXML - where
transitions are modelled by analysis of user choices history ?

In practice, just now, sounds easier to take a whatsoever CMS and provide
sound MVC content - surely HTML5 and 'SQL', possibly PHP.
A single language -Prolog- to express the LAMP full stack, with
quasi-quotation to finish rough spots (Javascript,CSS,PHP,maybe Flash...)

I'd like that people that are *now* Web heroes could be interested in a
Prolog backend, serving well shaped data, and well behaving,
understandable, logic.

Maybe we could see it as an economic problem.
Does I need to buy a server on the cloud to run a full LAMP # LP ?
Clearly, no, my 2 cents machine could deliver *a lot* of semantic data,
just given a sufficiently inexpensive gate on Web.
( On purpose of getting access to *inexpensive* semantic publishing on WWW
- I target max 10€ / year to run a site - built in Prolog, running LAMP -
like http://www.erboristeriasantanna.it )

Brainstorming...

L: Linux, the sense of freedom...
A: Apache, great in battlefield communication !
M: MySQL - hey, relational data ! mmm... in Prolog ?
 P: PHP - Powerful Handlers Processing here ! A bit of pattern matching and
substitutions...

# : this is where All should happen

L: Logic - well, there is something more to say here... TL;DR
P: Programming - as above...

PS just kidding, please bear with me :)

Carlo
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