Re: CMake on Unix

Branko Čibej <[email protected]> Mon, 18 May 2026 00:42:40 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.apache.apr.devel
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On 18. 5. 26 00:15, Noel Butler wrote:
>
> On 18/05/2026 06:34, Branko Čibej wrote:
>
>> On 16. 5. 26 08:58, Noel Butler wrote:
>>>
>>> On 16/05/2026 10:09, Noel Butler wrote:
>>>
>>>     i stopped reading at that, because its quite obvious you're out
>>>     to make problems for anyone woh disagrees with you, save your
>>>     breath, and after you apologise to the list for using offensive
>>>     language, ensure you dont mail me directly again.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ohh, and I'm not surprised at the backup squad you brought in to 
>>> push for cmake support, since I've received no less than three 
>>> Emails today advising me of your association with Daniel Sahlberg 
>>> and Nathan Hartman, you've all known each other for over 10 years.
>>>
>>> Says it all doesn't it :)    ... and thats rhetorical, not a question.
>>>
>>
>> Careful with those ad hominems. I'm no stranger to having strong 
>> opinions and using strong language on list, but you went way over the 
>> line there.
>>
>>
>> -- Brane
>>
> *I was not the one who used the actual F word, *
>

Frankly, I don't care about any word used in this thread. If you want to 
play sophistry games by replacing u with s, go right ahead. However, 
*attacking Daniel and Nathan personally because of their association 
with Timofei* is completely out of line. As is attacking him personally 
because of his opinions about CMake don't align with yours.

> funny how nobody recognizes that and dares say boo about it to who 
> actually did use it, yet are more than happy to nag on me for using a 
> word I never used, with that borders on a threat, I can see clearly 
> right through you.
>
> I can see whats going on here. 30 years of running abuse depts, RBL's, 
>  usenet servers and a 17year stint as an IRC oper on one of the most 
> popular (and tough and rogue) networks around gives me thick skin, but 
> also the ability to see right through people and their agendas.
>

Ah, I see, hidden agendas, conspiracies. And the old and well-worn 
argumentum ad auctoritatem, which in some ways is worse than ad hominem.

If you can't hold a reasonably polite technical discussion without 
immediately attacking people who disagree with you, you may have trouble 
getting valid points across. I'll remind you that your very first post 
in this thread started in a needlessly aggressive manner.

At this point the thing to do would be to take a deep breath, a step 
back, and start again /without/ assuming everyone is out to get you.

-- Brane

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18. 5. 26 00:15, Noel Butler wrote:<br>
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      <p id="reply-intro">On 18/05/2026 06:34, Branko Čibej wrote:</p>
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          <div class="v1moz-cite-prefix">On 16. 5. 26 08:58, Noel Butler
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            <p id="v1reply-intro">On 16/05/2026 10:09, Noel Butler
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                <p>i stopped reading at that, because its quite obvious
                  you're out to make problems for anyone woh disagrees
                  with you, save your breath, and after you apologise to
                  the list for using offensive language, ensure you dont
                  mail me directly again.</p>
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            </blockquote>
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              <p>Ohh, and I'm not surprised at the backup squad you
                brought in to push for cmake support, since I've
                received no less than three Emails today advising me of
                your association with Daniel Sahlberg and Nathan
                Hartman, you've all known each other for over 10 years.</p>
              <p>Says it all doesn't it :)    ... and thats rhetorical,
                not a question.</p>
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          </blockquote>
          <br>
          Careful with those ad hominems. I'm no stranger to having
          strong opinions and using strong language on list, but you
          went way over the line there.<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          -- Brane<br>
          <br>
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      <p><strong>I was not the one who used the actual F word, </strong></p>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Frankly, I don't care about any word used in this thread. If you
    want to play sophistry games by replacing u with s, go right ahead.
    However, <b>attacking Daniel and Nathan personally because of their
      association with Timofei</b> is completely out of line. As is
    attacking him personally because of his opinions about CMake don't
    align with yours.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:[email protected]">
      <p>funny how nobody recognizes that and dares say boo about it to
        who actually did use it, yet are more than happy to nag on me
        for using a word I never used, with that borders on a threat, I
        can see clearly right through you.</p>
      <p>I can see whats going on here. 30 years of running abuse depts,
        RBL's,  usenet servers and a 17year stint as an IRC oper on one
        of the most popular (and tough and rogue) networks around gives
        me thick skin, but also the ability to see right through people
        and their agendas.</p>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Ah, I see, hidden agendas, conspiracies. And the old and well-worn
    argumentum ad auctoritatem, which in some ways is worse than ad
    hominem.<br>
    <br>
    If you can't hold a reasonably polite technical discussion without
    immediately attacking people who disagree with you, you may have
    trouble getting valid points across. I'll remind you that your very
    first post in this thread started in a needlessly aggressive manner.<br>
    <br>
    At this point the thing to do would be to take a deep breath, a step
    back, and start again <i>without</i> assuming everyone is out to
    get you.<br>
    <br>
    -- Brane<br>
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