Re: Support for BeOS in APR-trunk

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On Sat, 16 May 2026 at 17:09, Ivan Zhakov <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, 10 May 2026 at 14:11, Ivan Zhakov <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 1. According to Wikipedia [1] BeOS was released in 1995 and the latest
>> release was in 2000.
>>
>> 2. There is Haiku (OpenBeOS) project. Which looks like reimplementation
>> of BeOS API based on Linux kernel though. I checked Haiku package
>> repository [2] and didn't find APR/HTTPD packages.
>>
>> 3. APR contains separate code for BeOS (like 19 source code files)
>>
>> Given all above I suggest to remove BeOS related source code from trunk,
>> unless someone comes forward and offers to maintain the BeOS code.
>>
>> Partially discussed before:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/r9txh2n1xpx3mh0ckrt8xhzvsqr9s56b
>>
>> [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS
>> [2]: https://depot.haiku-os.org/
>>
>>
> Thanks everyone for feedback and research on BeOS support topic.
>
> Here is updated summary of findings:
> 1. According to Wikipedia [1] BeOS was released in 1995 and the latest
> release was in 2000.
>
> 2. APR contains separate code for BeOS (like 19 source code files) and
> some conditional code (#ifdef BEOS) in "unix" source files.
>
> 3. There is Haiku (OpenBeOS) project. Haiku is an active project that
> aims to be a spiritual successor of BeOS.
>
> 4. There are APR, HTTPD and Subversion packages for Haiku ([2], [3], [4],
> [5])
>
> 5. APR on Haiku doesn't use BeOS specific code [6)
>
> 6. When compiling on Haiku BeOS specific preprocessor macros are not
> defined (BEOS, __BEOS__, BEOS_R5, HAVE_BONE_VERSION).
>
> I propose the following plan:
> 1. Remove BeOS from list supported platforms.
> 2. Remove BeOS specific source code.
> 3. Consider adding patches from Haiku ports [7] to APR trunk
>
> How does it sounds?
>
> [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS
> [2]:
> https://depot.haiku-os.org/__multipage/pkg/apr/haikuports/haikuports_x86_64/1/7/5/-/1/x86_64
> [3]:
> https://depot.haiku-os.org/__multipage/pkg/apache/haikuports/haikuports_x86_64/2/4/66/-/1/x86_64
> [4]:
> https://depot.haiku-os.org/__multipage/pkg/serf/haikuports/haikuports_x86_64/1/3/10/-/1/x86_64
> [5]:
> https://depot.haiku-os.org/__multipage/pkg/subversion/haikuports/haikuports_x86_64/1/14/5/-/2/x86_64
> [6]: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/14120
> [7]: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/tree/master/dev-libs/apr
>
> As far I see there is consensus on this topic. I removed support for BeOS
in r1934394, r1934396, r1934399, r1934433.

Thanks!

-- 
Ivan Zhakov

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, 16 May 2026 at 1=
7:09, Ivan Zhakov &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, 10 May 2026 at 14:11, Ivan Zhakov &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>1. According to Wikiped=
ia [1] BeOS was released in 1995 and the latest release was in 2000.</div><=
div><br></div><div>2. There is Haiku (OpenBeOS) project. Which looks like r=
eimplementation of BeOS API based on Linux kernel though. I checked Haiku p=
ackage repository [2] and didn&#39;t find APR/HTTPD packages.</div><div><br=
></div><div>3. APR contains separate code for BeOS (like 19 source code fil=
es)</div><div></div><div><br></div><div>Given all above I suggest to remove=
 BeOS related source code from trunk, unless someone comes forward and offe=
rs to maintain the BeOS code.</div><div><br></div><div></div><div>Partially=
 discussed before:</div><div><a href=3D"https://lists.apache.org/thread/r9t=
xh2n1xpx3mh0ckrt8xhzvsqr9s56b" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.apache.org/t=
hread/r9txh2n1xpx3mh0ckrt8xhzvsqr9s56b</a></div><div><br></div><div>[1]:=C2=
=A0<a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS</a></div><div>[2]:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://depo=
t.haiku-os.org/" target=3D"_blank">https://depot.haiku-os.org/</a></div><di=
v><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks everyone for feed=
back and research on BeOS support topic.</div><div><br></div><div>Here is u=
pdated summary of findings:</div><div>1. According to Wikipedia [1] BeOS wa=
s released in 1995 and the latest release was in 2000.<br><br></div><div>2.=
 APR contains separate code for BeOS (like 19 source code files) and some c=
onditional code (#ifdef BEOS) in &quot;unix&quot; source files.<br>

<br>3. There is Haiku (OpenBeOS) project.=C2=A0<span style=3D"border-color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">Haiku is an active project that aims to be a spiritual successo=
r of BeOS.</span>

</div><div><br></div><div>4. There are APR, HTTPD and Subversion packages f=
or Haiku ([2], [3], [4], [5])</div><div><br></div><div>5. APR on Haiku does=
n&#39;t use BeOS specific code [6)</div><div><br></div><div>6. When compili=
ng on Haiku BeOS specific preprocessor macros are not defined (BEOS, __BEOS=
__, BEOS_R5, HAVE_BONE_VERSION).</div><div><br></div><div>I propose the fol=
lowing plan:</div><div>1. Remove BeOS from list supported platforms.</div><=
div>2. Remove BeOS specific source code.</div><div>3. Consider adding patch=
es from Haiku ports [7] to APR trunk=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>How doe=
s it sounds?</div><div><br></div><div>[1]: <a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.=
org/wiki/BeOS" target=3D"_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS</a><br>=
[2]: <a href=3D"https://depot.haiku-os.org/__multipage/pkg/apr/haikuports/h=
aikuports_x86_64/1/7/5/-/1/x86_64" target=3D"_blank">https://depot.haiku-os=
.org/__multipage/pkg/apr/haikuports/haikuports_x86_64/1/7/5/-/1/x86_64</a><=
br>[3]: <a href=3D"https://depot.haiku-os.org/__multipage/pkg/apache/haikup=
orts/haikuports_x86_64/2/4/66/-/1/x86_64" target=3D"_blank">https://depot.h=
aiku-os.org/__multipage/pkg/apache/haikuports/haikuports_x86_64/2/4/66/-/1/=
x86_64</a><br>[4]: <a href=3D"https://depot.haiku-os.org/__multipage/pkg/se=
rf/haikuports/haikuports_x86_64/1/3/10/-/1/x86_64" target=3D"_blank">https:=
//depot.haiku-os.org/__multipage/pkg/serf/haikuports/haikuports_x86_64/1/3/=
10/-/1/x86_64</a><br>[5]: <a href=3D"https://depot.haiku-os.org/__multipage=
/pkg/subversion/haikuports/haikuports_x86_64/1/14/5/-/2/x86_64" target=3D"_=
blank">https://depot.haiku-os.org/__multipage/pkg/subversion/haikuports/hai=
kuports_x86_64/1/14/5/-/2/x86_64</a></div></div><div>[6]: <a href=3D"https:=
//github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/14120" target=3D"_blank">https://=
github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/14120</a></div><div>[7]:=C2=A0<a hr=
ef=3D"https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/tree/master/dev-libs/apr" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/tree/master/dev-li=
bs/apr</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>As far I see t=
here is consensus on this topic. I removed support for BeOS in r1934394, r1=
934396, r1934399, r1934433.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br>=
</div></div><span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">Ivan Zhakov</div></div>
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