Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ResilientDB

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Hi everyone,

Thanks for the clarification, and sorry for any confusion caused by the
earlier website links.

We understand the concern and have updated the website to make the download
flow more direct. The website now links only to the formal Apache
release/download page rather than GitHub checkout or source links.

On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 3:05=E2=80=AFAM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wr=
ote:

> For me, no tool for an ASF project/podling should be based on going to
> GitHub and do a git checkout. It should be based on a source release
> that was voted on by the PPMC and IPMC. The tool should be buildable
> from the source release.
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/tree/master/ecosystem/too=
ls/resvault#build
> contains instructions about `git clone` on a non Apache git repo.
> At a minimal, the docs in the apache/incubator-resilientdb repo should
> have a disclaimer about this tool not being an official Apache
> release.
>
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 at 08:47, Bismanpal Singh Anand <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sebb,
> > Those are a part of ResilientDB package itself and fall inside Apache
> > ResilientDB codebase only. So they don=E2=80=99t have any explicit down=
load
> links.
> > Currently, they open up inside the incubator resilientdb repository too=
.
> > If it seems confusing or doesn=E2=80=99t follow the guidelines, I can r=
emove it.
> > Let me know whatever works best!
> >
> >
> > -
> > Best,
> > Bismanpal Anand
> > +1 (530) 979-7760
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> >
> > On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 2:42=E2=80=AFAM sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > The downloads page looks fine.
> > >
> > > However, the Tools menu drop-downs link directly to GitHub.
> > > Where are the download pages for these?
> > >
> > > On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 at 01:38, Bismanpal Singh Anand <
> [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Sebb,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for pointing this out. I updated the website to address the
> > > > release/download concerns.
> > > >
> > > > The main website no longer promotes GitHub source links as
> downloads. I
> > > > also added a dedicated downloads page that points users to the form=
al
> > > > Apache release artifacts, uses the proper closer.lua flow for sourc=
e
> > > > releases, and includes guidance for verifying releases using
> signatures
> > > and
> > > > hashes.
> > > >
> > > > I hope this resolves the concerns. Please let me know if anything
> else
> > > > needs adjustment; otherwise, I believe this item is now addressed,
> and we
> > > > can proceed with the graduation discussion.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 3:22=E2=80=AFAM sebb <[email protected]> wro=
te:
> > > >
> > > > > I think there is an issue with releases.
> > > > >
> > > > > The main website links directly to the code on GitHub, which is
> not a
> > > > > formal release.
> > > > > Only developer pages should promote links to unreleased code.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no proper download page; the website links directly to
> > > > > downloads.apache.org.
> > > > >
> > > > > Download pages must use closer.lua for release artifacts; only si=
gs
> > > > > and hashes should be linked directly from downloads. And the
> download
> > > > > page must provide information on checking sigs, or failing that,
> > > > > hashes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sebb
> > > > > P.S. This seems to be a frequent problem with podlings; perhaps t=
he
> > > > > documentation needs updating?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 at 07:49, Junchao Chen <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi JB,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Junchao
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 2:17=E2=80=AFPM Jean-Baptiste Onofr=C3=
=A9 <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm doing a pass and already did some minor changes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I encourage everyone to take a look. So far, the maturity
> matrix is
> > > > > > > good, so I think we will be able to move forward to a formal
> vote
> > > > > > > soon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > JB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 5:42=E2=80=AFPM Junchao Chen <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi JB,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for the help.
> > > > > > > > I have updated the page with our maturity matrix.  Please
> take a
> > > > > look.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Junchao
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 9:23=E2=80=AFPM Jean-Baptiste Onofr=
=C3=A9 <
> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I created a ResilientDB space:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/spaces/RESILIENTDB/pages/440304868/Re=
silientDB+Home
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I will add the maturity matrix there to be accessible for
> > > everyone
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > comment there. I will keep you posted later today.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > JB
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2026 at 10:29=E2=80=AFAM PJ Fanning <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The usual home for these maturity models is
> cwiki.apache.org
> > > .
> > > > > That
> > > > > > > > > > would means that we have a permanent copy of the report=
.
> > > > > > > > > > Example
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/spaces/AMORO/pages/406622623/Apache+A=
moro+Maturity+Model
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 19 Jul 2026 at 07:25, Junchao Chen <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi JB,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions or comments for the  maturity matrix?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > Junchao
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2026 at 1:14=E2=80=AFAM Bismanpal Sin=
gh Anand <
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > > > > > > > If the pdf is inaccessible, here is a google docs
> link to
> > > > > view it
> > > > > > > > > online :
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Mjf8MAd1rQyHmmtlaQWwjwZs2iWX6laCQn-4K=
hGvs8A/edit?usp=3Dsharing
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for any inconvenience!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2026 at 12:07=E2=80=AFPM Mohammad S=
adoghi <
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bisman, it seems your attachment is not going
> through.
> > > Let
> > > > > me
> > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mohammad Sadoghi, PhD
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Professor, Chancellor's Fellow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Exploratory Systems Lab (ExpoLab)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Department of Computer Science
> > > > > > > > > > > > > University of California, Davis
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ExpoLab: https://expolab.org/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache ResilientDB (Incubating):
> > > https://resilientdb.com/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The Problems of Consensus: SpringerBriefs in
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2026 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM Bismanpal=
 Singh
> Anand <
> > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Sorry, seems like the attachment didn't go
> through.
> > > Please
> > > > > > > find
> > > > > > > > > it in
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> this email.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
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> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Bismanpal Anand
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> +1 (530) 979-7760
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