Re: looking for a new name

Apache Blur sounds interesting.

As for the Shutter suggestion, that would most likely have the same
naming conflict issue with Shutter Fly.

[1] http://www.shutterfly.com

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Angela Cymbalak <[email protected]> wrote:
> There was a company named Blur Software but they appear to be going out of
> business (www.blursoftware.com).  I think that Apache Blur would
> work...other thoughts?
>
> Angie
>
> At 03:07 PM 8/6/2008, Martin Cooper wrote:
>
>
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Angela Cymbalak
>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>> I have to go with something Noel mentioned when we first started
>> discussing the name.  He said (paraphrase) that it is much easier to settle
>> on a name before setting up all the resources (maillists, jira, etc.)
>>  Therefore, I think that we should address the concerns now before the
>> infrastructure for the project is set up.
>> I have no problem with 2A but I do fear that Google may not give the
>> statement.  I have a sneaking suspicion that companies only decide that a
>> name is "too close" when the new product starts getting big enough to
>> encroach on "their turf".  It may be easier to just avoid the question
>> altogether.
>> There is also option 3, which I think would also be in the Apache way.
>>  That would be, call a vote on it and see who thinks the name is too close.
>>  But, that could just drag things out.
>> All that being said, I like either Snapshot or Shutter.  However, Shutter
>> is taken[1].  SnapShot is also taken[2].    I did appreciate the
>> alliterations on general@ with that one, btw.  Neither of these pieces of
>> software is close to what we are doing so does that matter?
>> For what it is worth, Shoebox is the name of a software company[3].
>> Can we do a play on the Louvre?  Can we steal Click from that project?
>> My list:
>> Lewva
>> PixPlace
>> Blur
>> PixBlur
>> I'm liking Lewva and Blur myself.  I do also like SchuhKarton, the only
>> drawback being the length.
>>
>>
>> Lewva sounds too much like "loofah" to me. I like Blur, though.
>>
>> --
>> Martin Cooper
>>
>>
>>
>> Angie
>>
>> [1]<http://www.cygnet-infotech.com/Screenshot/Shutter-Manufacturing-System-software.htm>http://www.cygnet-infotech.com/Screenshot/Shutter-Manufacturing-System-software.htm
>>
>> [2]<http://www.allworldsoft.com/software/10-171-web-page-snapshot.htm>http://www.allworldsoft.com/software/10-171-web-page-snapshot.htm
>>
>> [3]<http://www.download.com/Shoebox-Software/3260-20_4-6283782.html>http://www.download.com/Shoebox-Software/3260-20_4-6283782.html
>>
>> At 01:54 PM 8/6/2008, Martin Cooper wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Roland Weber
>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi Angie,
>> >
>> >  Should this go to legal discuss to see what the lawyers say?
>> >>
>> >
>> > The lawyers rarely post on legal-discuss. The list is
>> > mostly populated by regular non-lawyer people with an
>> > interest in the legal minefield, like myself. It's not
>> > a place to discuss (non)similarity of names, and I'm
>> > pretty sure that no lawyer would enter the discussion.
>> >
>> >  It seems there are a few who are unsure about the name but others who
>> >> don't see a similarity.  Plus, as Craig mentioned, Pica is a very
>> >> normal
>> >> word to use in the line of photo galleries.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Well, the options I see are:
>> >
>> > A. enter incubation as PicaGalley and...
>> > A1. try to keep the name and hope that nobody objects
>> >    on graduation
>> > A2. seek a statement from Google that they don't
>> >    object to our usage of the name
>> > A3. change the name later before graduation
>> > or
>> > B. settle on a new name that doesn't raise any concerns
>> >
>> > If you're _really_ attached to PicaGalley, you could
>> > go for A2. But I doubt that you'll get that kind of
>> > statement from Google. A1 is a poor strategy, and
>> > graduation might even be delayed not because of the
>> > name, but because we didn't address the concerns, at
>> > the time when they were raised, in "The Apache Way".
>> > That is by seeking the broadest possible consensus.
>> >
>> > It's not like we have an existing OSS project with
>> > many users that would have to learn a new name.
>> > We're starting from scratch, and the preliminary
>> > name has only been used for three weeks internally.
>> > (as "internal" as discussions on public mailing
>> > lists can be :-) So my recommendation clearly is B.
>> >
>> >
>> > Additional suggestions on general@ by Martijn were
>> > "Snapshot" and "Shutter". Unfortunately, I don't
>> > know a catchy translation for the german word
>> > "Schuhkarton" (shoe box), which in reality is a
>> > much more common place than an album for keeping
>> > physical photographies :-)
>>
>> Shoebox would be a fine name. :-)
>> --
>> Martin Cooper
>>
>>
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> >  Roland
>> >
>> >
>> >  Pigalle
>> >>>
>> >>>> Phos Librarius
>> >>>> LibraLux
>> >>>> PhosBiblioteka
>> >>>> BiblioPic
>> >>>> PicAndMix
>> >>>> PhoGal
>> >>>> PhoGa
>> >>>> Foga
>> >>>> SnapLib
>> >>>> SnapStore
>> >>>> PicStore
>> >>>> SnapShow
>> >>>> PicShow
>> >>>> PicLib
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >
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