Re: proxy / email / certificates help

Bret Stern <[email protected]> Thu, 25 Sep 2025 23:55:00 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.comp.apache.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 9/25/2025 2:10 PM, Frank Gingras wrote:
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> On Thu, Sep 25, 2025 at 3:14 AM Bret Stern 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>     Like this?: (on the backend apache host)
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>     Edited loaded module:
>     vi /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d/00-base.conf
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>     Commented out
>     #LoadModule access_compat_module modules/mod_access_compat.so
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>     Modified Virtual:
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>     <VirtualHost *:80>
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>       ServerName postfixadmin.sevendogzero.com
>     <http://postfixadmin.sevendogzero.com>
>       DocumentRoot /var/www/postfixadmin/public/
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>       ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/postfixadmin_error.log
>       CustomLog /var/log/httpd/postfixadmin_access.log combined
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>       <Directory />
>         Options FollowSymLinks
>         AllowOverride All
>       </Directory>
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>       <Directory /var/www/postfixadmin/public/>
>         Options FollowSymLinks MultiViews
>         AllowOverride All
>       #  Order allow,deny
>       #  allow from all
>       </Directory>
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>     </VirtualHost>
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>     Then
>     sudo systemctl restart httpd
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>     Next step:
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>     Will read this.
>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HTTPD/PHP-FPM
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>     Appreciate the direction
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>     On 9/24/2025 8:22 PM, Frank Gingras wrote:
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>>     On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 9:17 PM Bret Stern
>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>         Couple things..I appear to be top posting. What is the
>>         preferred conversation rule. I use Thunderbird. Way back in
>>         the day, I seem to recall a setting
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>>         which played to the bottom posting preference.
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>>         On the conversation here. I've set a reverse proxy on my
>>         gateway apache server pointing to the backend apache server,
>>         which is running
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>>         mail services. (It doesn't have to be that way, I'm just
>>         trying to keep server counts down.)
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>>         On the backend apache server here is an example of my
>>         Virthost. However I think the following line should be
>>         "localhost"
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>>         current -> ServerName postfixadmin.domain.com
>>         <http://postfixadmin.domain.com>
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>>         replace with something like ->
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>>         *ProxyPass* /sample http://localhost:8080/sample
>>         *ProxyPassReverse* /sample http://localhost:8080/sample
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>>         <VirtualHost *:80>
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>>           ServerName postfixadmin.domain.com
>>         <http://postfixadmin.domain.com>
>>           DocumentRoot /var/www/postfixadmin/public/
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>>           ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/postfixadmin_error.log
>>           CustomLog /var/log/httpd/postfixadmin_access.log combined
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>>           <Directory />
>>             Options FollowSymLinks
>>             AllowOverride All
>>           </Directory>
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>>           <Directory /var/www/postfixadmin/public/>
>>             Options FollowSymLinks MultiViews
>>             AllowOverride All
>>             Order allow,deny
>>             allow from all
>>           </Directory>
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>>         </VirtualHost>
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>>         I just don't think I get this yet, but very close. I have
>>         three reverse proxy conf that are working for websites.
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>>         But this one simply says "File not found". The logs say
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>>         error_log
>>         [Tue Sep 23 23:24:19.181827 2025] [proxy_fcgi:error] [pid
>>         46973:tid 47081] [client 192.168.60.167:47784
>>         <http://192.168.60.167:47784>] AH01071: Got error 'Primary
>>         script unknown'
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>>         access_log
>>         192.168.60.167 - - [23/Sep/2025:23:24:19 -0700] "GET
>>         /setup.php HTTP/1.1" 404 16 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
>>         10.0; Win64; x64; rv:141.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/141.0"
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>>         Thanks for any help
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>>         Bret
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>>         On 9/20/2025 1:39 PM, Frank Gingras wrote:
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>>>         On Sat, Sep 20, 2025 at 3:46 PM Bret Stern
>>>         <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>             Ok. Is there a recommended place for the TLS, or either
>>>             one is fine. Just confiming.
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>>>             Sounds like I'll need to remove a cert on one of the
>>>             servers thinking..Yes/No
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>>>             Thanks Frank.
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>>>             On 9/20/2025 12:38 PM, Frank Gingras wrote:
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>>>>             On Sat, Sep 20, 2025 at 3:12 PM Bret Stern
>>>>             <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>                 Hi there,
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>>>>                 I'm setting up and email server which is reverse
>>>>                 proxyied behind a front
>>>>                 end apache server.
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>>>>                 For the same domain...my dns has both a primary web
>>>>                 server server, and
>>>>                 an email server sitting behind a single wan ip.
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>>>>                 First question.
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>>>>                 Is this possible?
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>>>>                 At this point all email is working except smtp,
>>>>                 which I'm thinking is a
>>>>                 certificate problem.
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>>>>                 So I have certicates on the email server apache and
>>>>                 the apache server
>>>>                 providing the reverse proxy.
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>>>>                 And of course Postfix and Dovecot could have config
>>>>                 issues, but mostly
>>>>                 here I'm looking for verifying my described concept is
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>>>>                 achievable using apache.
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>>>>                 Comments or links to feasability and tips are
>>>>                 always appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>                 Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>                 Bret
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>>>>             Email and HTTP server had nothing to do with each
>>>>             other, practically.  A reverse HTTP proxy can be used
>>>>             to host a webmail interface to handle those emails,
>>>>             sure, but then just handle the TLS termination either
>>>>             on the edge, or the inner server.
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>>>>             For the latter, just use SSLProxyEngine on.
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>>>         It depends on what the backend interface requires - if it
>>>         redirects to https:// automatically, then you'll need to
>>>         offload TLS to the proxied server with SSLProxyEngine on.
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>>>         Otherwise, you can handle the TLS handshake on the edge
>>>         server and speak non-TLS to the inner servers.
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>>     First, stop using the Allow/Deny/Order directives, and unload the
>>     mod_access_compat module.
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>>     Secondly, Primary script unknown is the error caused by pointing
>>     the URI to a non-existent resource running on php-fpm.  Take a
>>     look at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HTTPD/PHP-FPM
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>>     In short, if you request /foo a and you use DirectoryIndex
>>     index.php, the request will be converted to /foo/index.php, which
>>     in turn will be proxied to php-fpm, and that resource *must*
>>     existing on the file system, based on the docroot set in your fpm
>>     pool.
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> You need to replace the 2.2 authz directives with Require, too.  Also, 
> avoid using .htaccess files by setting AllowOverride none.


I believe you mean in this declaration. The docs call this an 
authorization container. Not going to pretend I know the syntax. Is this 
close?

So whatever the <Require> directive is, the arguments within the 
<Require(parameter)> must meet the parameter directive.. am I getting it 
sort of?

   <Directory /var/www/postfixadmin/public/>
    <Require>        <-------------------------------do I need an option 
here...I would think 'all'   can you give me a hint?

     Options FollowSymLinks MultiViews
     AllowOverride All
     Order allow,deny
     allow from all
   </Require>
  </Directory>