Re: [VOTE] Disassemble the 'commons' notion

+1 

Agree that we should have webservice/archive  and ws.apache.org/archive 
directory....less clutter the better. 

Nadir Amra
Integrated Web Services for IBM i Operating System
Internet: [email protected]

Daniel Kulp <[email protected]> wrote on 10/18/2010 10:11:54 AM:

> From: Daniel Kulp <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Glen Daniels <[email protected]>, Benson Margulies 
> <[email protected]>
> Date: 10/18/2010 10:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Disassemble the 'commons' notion
> 
> On Monday 18 October 2010 10:04:59 am Glen Daniels wrote:
> > This isn't a chair-specific thing, no, and thanks for asking Benson!
> > 
> > I had started drafting up a message to the Attic folks, but just took 
a
> > closer look at http://attic.apache.org/process.html - the Attic seems
> > highly optimized for TLPs and not so much for subprojects.  Also, I 
hadn't
> > realized this but the Attic does not seem to have a separate SVN
> > repository - rather, it asks the projects to leave their content 
in-place
> > (probably good for limited support of old searches/links/etc) and make 
it
> > read-only.  As such, it may not actually be the best option for our
> > subprojects.
> > 
> > Another option for us is to simply move the designated subprojects 
into our
> > own (read-only) archive, to sit alongside soap, pubscribe, etc.... 
We'd
> > still shut down the mailing lists (that's happening anyway), make the
> > appropriate JIRAs read-only, etc.
> > 
> > What do people think of that notion?  If we're +1 on that idea we can 
just
> > do it.
> 
> I'm +1, but I DO think that working with the Attic folks is the 
> right thing to 
> do so that the projects get officially  listed there.   Similar to:
> 
> http://attic.apache.org/projects/jakarta-slide.html
> 
> and such.
> 
> 
> > Open question - should we leave at least top-level SVN dirs for the
> > subprojects that get archived, with a README?  We didn't do this for 
the
> > former ones, and it would make our SVN space less "clean", but it 
might be
> > nice for folks looking for the old stuff.  I guess I'd say no, it's 
easy
> > enough to find if we update the ws.apache.org page, but what do others
> > think?
> 
> I personally would prefer a webservice/archive directory or somthingto 
stick 
> them in.  Out of sight, out of mind.   Actually, in this case, it's the 
other 
> way around.   Out of mind, make it out of sight.   :-)   I'd extend this 
to 
> the web site as well.   Make an "ws.apache.org/archive" area where 
> we dump the 
> attic projects sites so the Attic can point at it.
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > --Glen
> > 
> > On 10/18/2010 9:28 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> > > Is this a job for the chair, or could I be helpful by opening the 
door
> > > to the Attic?
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Glen Daniels 
<[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > >> On 10/18/2010 7:05 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> > >>>> I guess I'm +0 for doing this now, assuming that we will continue 
to
> > >>>> have a WS project in some way shape or form, containing many/most 
of
> > >>>> these subprojects.
> > >>> 
> > >>> OK, but what's the scoop on deleting things that got atticed or
> > >>> transfered to Axis?
> > >> 
> > >> The stuff that moved to Axis can/should all be removed.  We still 
need
> > >> to ask the Attic folks to suck in WSIF and Muse over there so those
> > >> should stay until that happens.
> > >> 
> > >> --Glen
> 
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> Daniel Kulp
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