Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 21:36, Daniel Kulp <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Monday 25 October 2010 3:21:27 pm Andreas Veithen wrote:
>> I think it's again a perfect example of a discussion that degenerates
>> because some people don't take the time to first get the facts and try
>> to think about what the issue actually is.
>>
>> Part of the issue is actually very simple. If somebody does a
>> modification to the site, you'd expect to get a notification about the
>> change so that you can review it. If that had been the case, I (or
>> somebody else) would have reacted to the removal of the Axis link and
>> the issue could have been solved without making too much noise. I
>> actually took the time to check why no such notification was ever
>> sent. It appears that Benson did two commits [1] to the
>> /webservices/site directory, but the SVN notifications are nowhere to
>> be found. Normally, they should have been sent to
>> [email protected] (at least that is where notifications of
>> previous commits where sent). I'm pretty sure that the reason is
>> simply that Benson didn't subscribe with his apache.org address to
>> that list.
>
> That, and the *@ws lists were not moderated lists.   If they were moderated,
> the commit would have just been moderated through.   Problem solved.
>
>> I think Benson acted in good faith, but because of a stupid mistake
>> (that BTW happened to other people in the past, including myself) he
>> rendered inoperative the commit-then-review policy.
>>
>> Benson, can you check your subscription to [email protected] and
>> test if SVN notifications are generated properly?
>
> Irrelevant.  The list no longer exists.    They go to [email protected] now.

Good point. Doesn't that mean that the SVN (and also Wiki)
configuration needs to be changed to send notifications to the new
list? Or has this already been done?

> Dan
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> [1]
>> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?to=20101025&path=/webservi
>> ces/site&author=bimargulies
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 16:56, Glen Daniels <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > <meta>
>> > Can we please drop the tone of this discussion?  While there are
>> > certainly some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and
>> > grousing are "The Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view
>> > of same.
>> >
>> > Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here.  I don't know if you had too much
>> > coffee today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
>> > </meta>
>> >
>> > I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to
>> > want things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main
>> > thrust we've been trying to execute on in the past few months with
>> > cleaning up the projects, the PMC list, etc.  10 months is plenty long
>> > for a project to move itself - most graduated incubator projects are out
>> > and set up as TLPs within a month or two.  On the other hand, of course
>> > people are busy and website work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs.
>> > :)  So let's please try to get some actual cooperative work happening
>> > here and focus on what needs doing rather than who's asking.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > --Glen
>> >
>> > On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <[email protected]
>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>     It's been 10 MONTHS!?!   I think that's been more than an adequate
>> >> amount of time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of
>> >> moving to a TLP. You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one
>> >> person was able to copy the content over (or update poms and do a
>> >> site:deploy or whatever you guys do for web content).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD
>> >> about Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's
>> >> reasonable??! That is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from
>> >> two ASF Members.
>> >>
>> >> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>> >> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>> >>
>> >> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back
>> >> some history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine;
>> >> its ours and I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis
>> >> has in this project! You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) ..
>> >> however much you may wish for that to be the case.
>> >>
>> >> Sanjiva.
>> >> --
>> >> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> >> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> >> http://www.opensource.lk/
>> >> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
>> >> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
>> >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>> >> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
>> >> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>> >>
>> >> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
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