Re: WSIF questions

meghan wrote:

>I am trying to catch up on the current state of Web Services for use in a
>project at my workplace.  We would very likely be using JMS in front of our
>actual service in order to provide asynchronous call ability, and
>guaranteed (almost) delivery of messages.  It's very possible that we'll be
>getting messages from .NET and Java clients, so we like the idea of having
>WSIF hide the implementation from the client.
>  
>
it seems that future will be around doc/literal and message driven 
services that use SOAP 1.2 and are described  in WSDL 1.1 (later WSDL2)

what will be the API for Java - hard to say but it *should* not matter 
as you can choose APIs you like and all should still work: AXIS 1.2, 
AXIS2, WSIF on top of AXIS and other projects such as mine XSUL2 or 
XFire to name few ...

>However, my partner and I have been struggling to figure out where Web
>Services seems to be heading right now.
>
i do not think there is one simple answer to that and i doubt anybody 
knows it ...

>  I read through several months'
>worth of the WSIF archives (that's where I found your name), but I'm still
>confused.  It seemed in one message, that JAX-RPC would have an effect on
>whether or not WSIF is in the future, but I can't understand why you
>couldn't have one without the other--I'm guessing I misunderstood the
>comment.
>  
>
JAX-RPC 2.x in future hopefully will provide more WSDL-driven and 
doc/literal API not RPC (maybe they should change the name ...)

>We're using WSAD 5.1.1 here and are quite confused as to why they don't
>incorporate WSIF into their wizards--after all, IBM certainly has people on
>staff who would know how to do that!  Are they chasing some new way of
>doing it, that would be different from WSIF?  Or did they just decide they
>didn't care for another layer??
>  
>
i have no idea what WSAD 5.1x is doing or planning to do.

>It looks like none of the Apache WS projects have had new releases in quite
>some time (I know, it looks like Axis is getting close, but from our
>standpoint it appears to have stalled; since we're not on the mailing
>lists... maybe it's flying and we just don't know it).
>
>It looks like you're quite a busy guy, so I don't want to take much of your
>time, but if you could help me get a grip on the basic idea of what's going
>on, or at least point me to information that I can read to get educated, I
>would be extremely appreciative!  I've poked through the Axis and WSIF
>archives for the past year or so, plus the WSIF and Axis web pages, plus
>the Axis wiki, and run many Google searches but I'm just not finding the
>information I'm looking for.   I suspect it's just in people's heads right
>now...
>  
>
what is exactly the information that you look for? just send your questions!

WSIF code is open source and freely available and we do accept patches 
and nominate/accept commiters if they are interested in improving it.

i wish it was going faster (and that  i had more time) however we will 
make soon a new WSIF release to coincide with AXIS 1.2 final.

i am interested in looking what could be future of WSIF and if you ave 
ideas please send them to wsif-dev and help us to make them happen ;-)

thanks,

alek

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