Re: Need help invoking complex web services
Jeff Greif <[email protected]> Tue, 22 May 2007 06:49:41 -0700
| Newsgroups | gmane.comp.apache.webservices.wsif.user |
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velidandas wrote: > What is the additional work to be done here, Please explain in detail so that > I will > get my application working. > > Thanks very much for all the help. > Srinivas. > :*) > > velidandas wrote: > >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jeff Greif [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: 18 May 2007 23:04 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Need help invoking complex web services >>> >>> >>> Yes, Alek is correct. You have to do some additional work to >>> make use >>> of WSIF dynamic invocation on complex types, but it can be done. >>> >> If there is some additional work to be done, how can it be said that WSIF >> itself supports >> dynamic Invocation with complex types. >> >> Could you please provide some sample with what you mean by the additional >> work to >> be done >> >> Thanks. >> >>> My company has been using WSIF as infrastructure for a user-interface >>> provider for web services for several years, using dynamic invocation >>> based on the WSDL and the schemas it references. A wide variety of >>> complex types (but not all) are handled. WSIF is a small but >>> >> here agian what does it mean by "but not all", Could you please >> clarify the problem here... >> >> >>> significant >>> piece of a larger system, which gathers the input to the web >>> services, >>> invokes the services, presents the output, and allows the >>> data from the >>> outputs to be used to construct inputs to other services. The >>> automatically-generated user interfaces can be delivered on >>> the desktop >>> or various mobile devices, and customized and beautified with >>> additional >>> metadata (beyond the schemas) to set up the user-driven >>> chaining of the >>> services and present the WS inputs and outputs in a way more suitable >>> for end users. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> Aleksander Slominski wrote: >>> >>>> Jeff Greif wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> The remarks about WSIF supporting dynamic invocation with complex >>>>> types are incorrect. This question has been asked and >>>>> >>> answered many >>> >>>>> times on this list. Please check the archives. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> the issues for discussion is "support" - if one expects automatic >>>> handling of >>>> all of XML schemas types in WSIF that is not what WSIF does >>>> >>> but it does >>> >>>> help with mapping Java data (or just XML possibly that follows XS >>>> - that is dynamic case) and sending XML to a service >>>> >>> identified by WSDL. >>> >>>> in my experience dynamic case is typically encountered in >>>> >>> two situations: >>> >>>> 1. some kind of user interface: it needs to parse WSDL and >>>> >>> present input >>> >>>> to user >>>> then it can use WSIF to send that input to that service >>>> 2. workflows or other systems that need to invoke services >>>> >>> described in WSDL >>> >>>> but those systems do not generate input they just do >>>> >>> its processing and >>> >>>> they are less dynamic (and can handle less of varied >>>> >>> inputs) more >>> >>>> processing they do. >>>> >>>> my .01c >>>> >>>> best, >>>> >>>> alek >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 5/17/07, Velidanda Srinivas >>>>> >>> <srinivas.velidanda-JN3Mhpvxl8ynejAxpDtHaVpr/1R2p/[email protected]> >>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> WSIF could not be used for dynamic invocation using complex Types. >>>>>> >>>>>> WSIF does not support complex types in dynamic invocation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Try and see XSUL, if works. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let me know if you get working with XSUL. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Tim Hamer [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> Sent: 14 May 2007 19:20 >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Need help invoking complex web services >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We're trying to create a Java application capable of >>>>>>> consuming any web service dynamically given only the WSDL. >>>>>>> The only problem is that we can't figure out how to invoke a >>>>>>> service that takes a complex type as a parameter without >>>>>>> first generating code. Is it possible to use WSIF to do such >>>>>>> an invocation without generating code, and if so, could >>>>>>> someone please send us some hint on how to do so? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>> >> Aleksander Slominski wrote: >> >>> Jeff Greif wrote: >>> >>>> The remarks about WSIF supporting dynamic invocation with complex >>>> types are incorrect. This question has been asked and answered many >>>> times on this list. Please check the archives. >>>> >>> the issues for discussion is "support" - if one expects automatic >>> handling of >>> all of XML schemas types in WSIF that is not what WSIF does but it does >>> help with mapping Java data (or just XML possibly that follows XS >>> - that is dynamic case) and sending XML to a service identified by WSDL. >>> >>> in my experience dynamic case is typically encountered in two situations: >>> 1. some kind of user interface: it needs to parse WSDL and present input >>> to user >>> then it can use WSIF to send that input to that service >>> 2. workflows or other systems that need to invoke services described in >>> WSDL >>> but those systems do not generate input they just do its processing >>> and >>> they are less dynamic (and can handle less of varied inputs) more >>> processing they do. >>> >>> my .01c >>> >>> best, >>> >>> alek >>> >>>> On 5/17/07, Velidanda Srinivas <srinivas.velidanda-JN3Mhpvxl8ynejAxpDtHaVpr/1R2p/[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> WSIF could not be used for dynamic invocation using complex Types. >>>>> >>>>> WSIF does not support complex types in dynamic invocation. >>>>> >>>>> Try and see XSUL, if works. >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know if you get working with XSUL. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Tim Hamer [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: 14 May 2007 19:20 >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Need help invoking complex web services >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> We're trying to create a Java application capable of >>>>>> consuming any web service dynamically given only the WSDL. >>>>>> The only problem is that we can't figure out how to invoke a >>>>>> service that takes a complex type as a parameter without >>>>>> first generating code. Is it possible to use WSIF to do such >>>>>> an invocation without generating code, and if so, could >>>>>> someone please send us some hint on how to do so? >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks, >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>>> __________ >>>>>> This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by MessageLabs. >>>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>>> __________ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by MessageLabs. >>>>> >>>>> Singularity operates globally through its offices in New York, >>>>> London, Singapore, Ireland and India. 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