RE: What is the current status of WSIF
"Todd Eisemann" <[email protected]> Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:56:27 -0700
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C7AD3C.8711531C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Doug =20 I am using WAS 6.1.0.5 (and I think we even had the problems on earlier release of WAS, such as was 6.0) =20 In the was runtime jar (in the plugin directoy), you will find all of the WSIF classes - with different implementation than WSIF 2.0 =20 The IBM implementation of WSIFServiceImpl.getPort() is really slow - especially the protected method setupTypeMappings() is horrendous, especially, when you have a WSDL that has lots of XSD data types defined. =20 =20 Hope that helps =20 ________________________________ From: Jackson, Douglas [mailto:[email protected]]=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: What is the current status of WSIF =20 Hi! We are using WSIF on Websphere, and are not aware of any problems - can you elaborate on which version you are seeing these problems? -Doug. =20 ________________________________ From: Todd Eisemann [mailto:[email protected]]=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: What is the current status of WSIF =20 HI all =20 Just a quick opinion. We have been using WSIF for some web service and lots of POJO bound invocations. It works well... Things have gone pretty well. I'd love to see WSIF move up to a newer WSDL4J parser. =20 He have found a few thread sync problems in WSIF and have been able to work around those. =20 HOWEVER, we have found that IBM WebSphere runtime jar ALSO includes a very different version of WSIF. The IBM version has horrible performance and lots of thread synchronization problems. This has caused us no end of pain. In WebSphere, you cannot work the class path to use Apache WSIF. =20 Therefore, if you plan to use WSIF in WebSphere, I believe you will have problems. However, if you use it anywhere else, I believe you will find it to be a pleasant experience. Thanks =20 ________________________________ From: sambit kumar dikshit [mailto:[email protected]]=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: What is the current status of WSIF =20 Hi Ahmet, I could see the future is bright. We have been using it for a while and successfully built a service invocation framework using WSIF and extending some of the features. It is a really good stuff where you want to invoke various types of services running on different protocol e.g http, soap, jms, POJO, EJB etc.=20 =20 Regards -Sambit =20 On Jun 12, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Ahmet Emre wrote: =20 We are starting to use some web services first time in our company. There were few web service calls we had developed in the past and we were using WSIF. Now we do expect more and more web service calls being made and we do expect web services becoming an important part of the architecture in a year or so.=20 How do you guys see WSIF in the future? In order to invoke Web Services do you believe WSIF is the way to go? Or would you say WSIF is legacy and focus on something else? As I researched little bit, WSIF community is not very active anymore. There are many other things going on and it looks like Service Component Artchitecture (SCA) and some Eclipse Web Tools Platform (WTP) are the ones to consider first.=20 Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts on this subject. =20 The information transmitted herewith is sensitive information of Chordiant Software or its customers and is intended only for use to the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D= 2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Jackso= n, Douglas [mailto:[email protected]] <br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 12, 20= 07 1:33 PM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> wsif-user-28n8OjmUYWeuLBZoZLr/[email protected]= g<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: What is the c= urrent status of WSIF</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D= 'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We are using WSIF on Websphere, and = are not aware of any problems – can you<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>elaborate on which version you are s= eeing these problems?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>-Doug.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font s= ize=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=3D3 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> </span></font></div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-= size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D= 2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Todd E= isemann [mailto:[email protected]] <br> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on"><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sen</span= ></b></st1:PersonName><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>t:</span></b> Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:11 PM<= br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D= "on">[email protected]</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: What is the c= urrent status of WSIF</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D= 'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>HI all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Just a quick opinion.<o:p></o:p></sp= an></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><br> We have been using WSIF for some web service and lots of POJO bound invocations. It works well… Things have gone pretty well. &nbs= p; I’d love to see WSIF move up to a newer WSDL4J parser.<o:p></o:p></= span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>He have found a few thread sync prob= lems in WSIF and have been able to work around those.<o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>HOWEVER, we have found that IBM WebS= phere runtime jar ALSO includes a very different version of WSIF. The IBM versi= on has horrible performance and lots of thread synchronization problems. This ha= s caused us no end of pain. In WebSphere, you cannot work the class p= ath to use Apache WSIF.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Therefore, if you plan to use WSIF i= n WebSphere, I believe you will have problems. However, if you use it anywh= ere else, I believe you will find it to be a pleasant experience.<o:p></o:p><= /span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><br> Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font s= ize=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> </span></font></div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-= size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D= 2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> sambit= kumar dikshit [mailto:[email protected]] <br> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on"><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sen</span= ></b></st1:PersonName><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>t:</span></b> Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:57 AM<b= r> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D= "on">[email protected]</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: What is the c= urrent status of WSIF</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D= 'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D= 'font-size: 12.0pt'>Hi Ahmet,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D= 'font-size: 12.0pt'> I could see the future is bright. We have been using= it for a while and successfully built a service invocation framework using W= SIF and extending some of the features. It is a really good stuff where you w= ant to invoke various types of services running on different protocol e.g http, = soap, jms, POJO, EJB etc. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D= 'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D= 'font-size: 12.0pt'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D= 'font-size: 12.0pt'>-Sambit <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D= 'font-size: 12.0pt'>On Jun 12, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Ahmet Emre wrote:<o:p></o:p></span><= /font></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:= p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D= 'font-size: 12.0pt'><br> </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt= ;font-family: Arial'>We are starting to use some web services first time in our company= =2E There were few web service calls we had developed in the past and w= e were using WSIF. Now we do expect more and more web service calls being made a= nd we do expect web services becoming an important part of the architecture in = a year or so.</span></font> <br> <br> <font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:A= rial'>How do you guys see WSIF in the future? In order to invoke Web Services do you b= elieve WSIF is the way to go? Or would you say WSIF is legacy and focus on somet= hing else? As I researched little bit, WSIF community is not very active anymo= re. There are many other things going on and it looks like Service Component Artchitecture (SCA) and some Eclipse Web Tools Platform (WTP) are the one= s to consider first.</span></font> <br> <br> <font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:A= rial'>Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts on this subject.</span></font><o= :p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D= 'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span style=3D'font-s= ize:10.0pt; font-family:Consolas'>The information transmitted herewith is sensitive information of Chordiant Software or its customers and is intended only f= or use to the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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